On Sunday 10 June 2007 22:50, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> And IMHO there is only a very weak relation between a processor's
> instruction set and its power consumption.
Not direct, but several strong points can arise from using a specific
instruction set (presuming compatibility is one of t
There is currently not an ARM Linux library for Skype.
On Jun 10, 2007, at 1:37 PM, Thomas Gstädtner wrote:
There are some things that are not true here.
True is, that x86 is on the bottom of popularity, because of the
disadvantages.
Also it's true, that linux runs on x86. Linux's also runnin
On Sunday 10 June 2007 23:28:03 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> set!) at a lower speed with much less transistors. Wikipedia tells
> that the original 8086 did have just 29.000 transistors and the 8087
> FPU did have 45.000. So, I would assume that the instruction set
> extensions since the 8086
Am 10.06.2007 um 23:10 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner:
That would explain why Intel sold XScale :)
Exactly :)
IHMO there is a direct relation between the instruction set and the
power consumption:
The more complex a processor is the more power it needs.
Yes.
Let's explain it the easy (and no
On Sunday 10 June 2007 23:10:56 Thomas Gstädtner wrote:
> ARM9 Chips are under 10 million, VIA C7 about 25 million, Intel Core2Duo
> about 300 million, IBM Power6 800 million.
ARM9 is not comparable to C7 (C3 might be somewhere around that) which is not
in the same league as Core2 which again i
That would explain why Intel sold XScale :)
IHMO there is a direct relation between the instruction set and the power
consumption:
The more complex a processor is the more power it needs.
Let's explain it the easy (and not fully correct) way: When you want to see
the complexity of a microprocessor
So I still see no reason for having a energy comsuming x86-monster
in my phone. :)
If I read all the rumours around iPhone and new UMPC platforms
correctly, Intel is working heavily on lowest power versions of x86-
Instruction set compatible CPUs.
And IMHO there is only a very weak relatio
There are some things that are not true here.
True is, that x86 is on the bottom of popularity, because of the
disadvantages.
Also it's true, that linux runs on x86. Linux's also running on SPARC - but
nobody would use SPARC in a phone, so that is simply no reason for using
x86.
But it is not true
Before we run off and predict that the sky is falling, let's consider
a couple of things:
1. This is a prototype. This is not a product. This is a system that
demonstrates how small you can make a device with the new C7-S
processors. Also... take a look at how many discrete components are
When you look at the board you see that there is not much space left.
It seems there's no GSM, no WiFi, no other chip already.
i've heard talk elsewhere of a built in cdma module. that's an odd
choice considering the number of operators switching to gsm, but i
would assume via will change/add to
Well, it stays a power consuming x86.
I cannot imagine that this already would be an alternative architecture to
ARM and so on.
Current VIA's take from 500 mW up to 7 W, Intels XScale from 0.1 mW to 1.5W.
When you look at the board you see that there is not much space left.
It seems there's no GSM
This is rather cool. It still needs appropriate RF modules, but since it's a
standard X86 PC motherboard, porting OpenMoko to it should be pretty easy.
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