Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-03 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Michael Well I for one would like a smartphone with completely open software - if an open implementation of baseband code also led to an improvement in user experience on the freerunner, that would be a bonus. Like you, I'm not too concerned about rules imposed on us by large corporations, i

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Radek Polak wrote: > i am rather saying: > (shortage of existing GTA02 units) -> (GTA04 is the solution) It is *a* solution for some classes of users. It is not *the* solution for all use cases. > Also pool graphics performace of GTA02 make the user experience very bad - > hardly acceptable f

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-02 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday 02 of December 2011 17:53:15 msoko...@ivan.harhan.org wrote: > So I still disagree with your reasoning chain of > > (shortage of existing GTA02 units) -> (GTA04 is the only solution) i am rather saying: (shortage of existing GTA02 units) -> (GTA04 is the solution) Also pool graphics

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Radek Polak wrote: > With my wooden case i had fully working phone - only single part > that was from GTA02 was the speaker + microphone. I really dont > think this is big problem. Yes, and if I wanted to do the same thing (use a self-made wooden case), I could have done it just as well with my

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-02 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday 02 December 2011 05:26:16 msoko...@ivan.harhan.org wrote: > But seriously, swapping PCBAs between GTA02 and GTA04 is a zero-sum > game. The number of existing {case + LCM + GSM antenna + other bits} > sets is finite, and it stays the same whether you leave the original > GTA02 PCBAs in

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-01 Thread Michael Sokolov
t; fw src/object code so zealously? Why are you so unwilling to brighten up at least one person's life by having some anonymous account upload a copy from some public WiFi hotspot? > Did you realize that very soon you will loose the freedom to buy GTA02? Well, I've already got mine.

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-01 Thread Radek Polak
SM/UMTS modem in the GTA04 just as closed as any > other? How is then GTA04 an improvement over GTA02 in terms of > openness/freedom? If anything, it's a step backward from the GTA02 in > terms of openness/freedom: at least for the GTA02's Calypso the free > world already has fr

GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-01 Thread Michael Sokolov
in terms of openness/freedom? If anything, it's a step backward from the GTA02 in terms of openness/freedom: at least for the GTA02's Calypso the free world already has free physical access (legalities aside, please) to full hw documentation for all guts of that chipset and to the fw s

Re: Freedom Redfined.

2009-06-25 Thread Jeremy McNaughton
Hi Steve, That's great news. It sounds like you're not giving up on something you love, so good for you! I guess we'll find out once you make more announcements and get your website up, but I'm curious how this impacts the need for the community to create an organization. It sounds like a commu

Re: Freedom Redfined.

2009-06-22 Thread Shaz
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > Indeed, we're interested to see where this will take us. > > Please try to do it better this time with the community! > I wish you all the best luck. Its so nice to know that OM will get more strong backing because the community has matu

Re: Freedom Redfined.

2009-06-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Indeed, we're interested to see where this will take us. Please try to do it better this time with the community! I wish you all the best luck. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: Freedom Redfined.

2009-06-22 Thread Giovanni
Wow !!! I'm very curious to listen more. I wish you a bright future for you and your new company. Giovanni On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Steve Mosher wrote: > Community, > As many of you know may 25th was my last official day at Openmoko. > Since that time I have been focused on two >

Freedom Redfined.

2009-06-22 Thread Steve Mosher
Community, As many of you know may 25th was my last official day at Openmoko. Since that time I have been focused on two things: First, putting my Openmoko business in order. There were several tasks that got cut off midstream by the layoff and I felt I owed it to the community to see those jo

Re: this is not freedom [was:Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone]

2008-09-24 Thread David Samblas
las 17:49 +0300, doron escribió: > Hi, > > I not sure , but, > > AFAIK , I can run free software for any purpose (freedom 0) , but the > Google phone is locked to one cellular provider , T-mobile , and the > device is SIM-locked [1] (paragraph 9 - first line). > This is

this is not freedom [was:Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone]

2008-09-24 Thread doron
Hi, I not sure , but, AFAIK , I can run free software for any purpose (freedom 0) , but the Google phone is locked to one cellular provider , T-mobile , and the device is SIM-locked [1] (paragraph 9 - first line). This is not freedom ! [1] http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080923-t

Re: I bought the FR for what I did not have - freedom (was: Re: funny comment from a user, in response to the question of whether FR works as a daily phone:)

2008-09-20 Thread Kelvie Wong
On Saturday, September 20, 2008 17:55:09 yochaigal wrote: > Usable as a day phone??? I think the Fat and Dirty distro is completely > usable as a day phone... I should know (I use it every day with minimal > changes... any issues I have I just reflash). > Same for me, minus the reflashing. I've f

Re: I bought the FR for what I did not have - freedom

2008-09-20 Thread Matt
yochaigal wrote: > Usable as a day phone??? I think the Fat and Dirty distro is completely > usable as a day phone... I should know (I use it every day with minimal > changes... any issues I have I just reflash). > > > I think we need to be moving towards a situation where flashing is consider

Re: I bought the FR for what I did not have - freedom (was: Re: funny comment from a user, in response to the question of whether FR works as a daily phone:)

2008-09-20 Thread yochaigal
Usable as a day phone??? I think the Fat and Dirty distro is completely usable as a day phone... I should know (I use it every day with minimal changes... any issues I have I just reflash). Ajay Kumar wrote: > > Somewhat similar utility to what Brian said: > > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:00 AM

Re: I bought the FR for what I did not have - freedom (was: Re: funny comment from a user, in response to the question of whether FR works as a daily phone:)

2008-09-20 Thread Ajay Kumar
Somewhat similar utility to what Brian said: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:00 AM, Brian Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They are targeted at "hospitality and healthcare" industry. They are > just WiFi phones, no GSM no Linux. > Both of these apps have staff that are constantly moving around and

Re: I bought the FR for what I did not have - freedom (was: Re: funny comment from a user, in response to the question of whether FR works as a daily phone:)

2008-09-20 Thread Brian Wilson
Paraphrasing Michael > In what ways can you extend the FreeRunner... I was looking at WiFi IP phones yesterday at Voipsupply.org and they have some in the $300-$600 range. They are targeted at "hospitality and healthcare" industry. They are just WiFi phones, no GSM no Linux. Both of these apps hav

I bought the FR for what I did not have - freedom (was: Re: funny comment from a user, in response to the question of whether FR works as a daily phone:)

2008-09-20 Thread Michael Shiloh
Michael Shiloh wrote: >> My old phone works as a daily phone. I bought the FR for what I did not >> have - misery. Sorry everyone, I found that comment amusing and was going to respond in some clever way, then changed my mind, and unfortunately sent the partially composed message. To paraphras

Re: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Software Freedom Day in Singapore on Sat. Sept. 20?

2008-08-29 Thread Chelsea Wei
esday 26 August 2008 16:46:28 Chelsea Wei wrote: > >> Openmoko is pleased to be invited for an open source day event on >> Software Freedom Day in Singapore. >> >> We will love to have some openmoko presence in Singapore; nevertheless, >> we are small understaf

Re: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Software Freedom Day in Singapore on Sat. Sept. 20?

2008-08-28 Thread Sarton O'Brien
rce day event on > Software Freedom Day in Singapore. > > We will love to have some openmoko presence in Singapore; nevertheless, > we are small understaffed team, so we will love if some of you could > commit to helping us. > > Software Freedom Day in Singapore will be held at

Can you help the Openmoko booth at Software Freedom Day in Singapore on Sat. Sept. 20?

2008-08-25 Thread Chelsea Wei
Openmoko is pleased to be invited for an open source day event on Software Freedom Day in Singapore. We will love to have some openmoko presence in Singapore; nevertheless, we are small understaffed team, so we will love if some of you could commit to helping us. Software Freedom Day in

Re: freedom

2008-03-02 Thread Tim Kersten
I don't think you can compare Peermeta with the Openmoko platform. The Openmoko platform is designed to be an Open Source platform for Open Source Handsets - and is meant to be a platform that can be built upon - not just for "Web 2.0" access. Peermeta seems to be a proprietary closed system with a

Re: freedom

2008-03-01 Thread khang
*About Peermeta* Peermeta is a pioneer in Web 2.0 enabled software platforms for intelligent end points utilizing mobile broadband infrastructure. The Peermeta solution enables mobile access to Any Content, on Any Device, on Any Network, at Any Time. Peermeta provides a method for tapping into th

freedom

2008-02-27 Thread Ming Chien
"FREE YOUR IMAGINATION & INNOVATION" AFTER " FREE YOUR PHONE "!!! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Intercepting Audio == Freedom from Service Providers

2007-01-15 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Tomasz Zielinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070115 15:07]: > 2007/1/14, Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >c) without being online all the time, you probably need to use it > >interactivly. 144B/s is way to slow for sensible feedback in the 1-2 > >seconds a user might accept to wait. > > Well

Re: Intercepting Audio == Freedom from Service Providers

2007-01-15 Thread Tomasz Zielinski
2007/1/14, Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: c) without being online all the time, you probably need to use it interactivly. 144B/s is way to slow for sensible feedback in the 1-2 seconds a user might accept to wait. Well, think about long wave submarine communication channel, which can se

Re: Intercepting Audio == Freedom from Service Providers

2007-01-15 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
> If your phone can receive data over a voice channel, you have less of > a reason to pay your service provider for a separate "data package". > This would be especially nice for someone like me who only subcribes > to the "bare bones" plan, but still has minutes left over at the end > of the month

Re: Intercepting Audio == Freedom from Service Providers

2007-01-15 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Bryan Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070113 15:32]: > On 1/13/07, Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If your phone can receive data over a voice channel, you have less of > >> a reason to pay your service provider for a separate "data package". > >> This would be especially nice for some

Re: Intercepting Audio == Freedom from Service Providers

2007-01-15 Thread Bryan Fink
On 1/13/07, Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If your phone can receive data over a voice channel, you have less of > a reason to pay your service provider for a separate "data package". > This would be especially nice for someone like me who only subcribes > to the "bare bones" plan,