Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-23 Thread vivek khurana
On 7/20/07, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Adam Krikstone wrote: There's nothing stopping a GSM provider from blocking all unbranded IMEI's, including your neo. Different operators have different implementation of the GSM standard, which they call it their IP-crap-R. Now, if

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-23 Thread David Lefty Schlesinger
Operator phone requirements are huge and ornate, and, essentially, conformance testing is done by invitation only, only for phones that the operator is planning on selling directly. The requirements for one major European carrier are about 1200 pages in length... The requirements are only

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-20 Thread Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile Embedded
paragraph and guess which category I put you in. On 7/13/07, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just launched today, I figure we should be aware. Maybe we could turn this into an opportunity to increase awareness of the neo: http://freetheiphone.org

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-20 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, Adam Krikstone wrote: There's nothing stopping a GSM provider from blocking all unbranded IMEI's, including your neo. Different operators have different implementation of the GSM standard, which they call it their IP-crap-R. Now, if we want Operator Acceptance Testing with Neo, we have

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-20 Thread Ian Darwin
There's nothing stopping a GSM provider from blocking all unbranded IMEI's, including your neo. There's nothing stopping a toll highway operator from blocking unbranded cars either. But do they? Does any GSM provider block unbranded IMEIs? I know in Canada we have one GSM carrier (under two

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-20 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, On 7/20/07, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You were planning to *ask* if you can use YOUR phone on YOUR plan? Yes. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-20 Thread Adam Krikstone
As far as I know, no GSM provider blocks IMEI's. I was responding to a person who asked whether it was possible. I do see troubling signs ahead coming from Telecommunication providers as consolidation continues. Their argument for net neutrality can easily be applied to wireless under the

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-14 Thread Zoltan HERPAI
You mean to get Openmoko sw running on the iCrap^WPhone? This is pervert, but nice ;) -w- Mike wrote: Just launched today, I figure we should be aware. Maybe we could turn this into an opportunity to increase awareness of the neo: http://freetheiphone.org

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-14 Thread Mark
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Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-14 Thread Mike
, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just launched today, I figure we should be aware. Maybe we could turn this into an opportunity to increase awareness of the neo: http://freetheiphone.org/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-14 Thread Adam Krikstone
of the neo: http://freetheiphone.org/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-14 Thread Adam Krikstone
It's the same as a lost or stolen GSM phone. You can have your provider block the IMEI from registering. You can still use that phone on another provider but not with the provider that blocked it. I would not put the idea of blocking foreign IMEI aside as a carrier could this under the

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-14 Thread Ian Stirling
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Adam Krikstone writes: I'm with the idiots for a wireless carterfone decision. I don't think we were better off with with renting landline phones from ATT. There's nothing stopping a GSM provider from blocking all unbranded IMEI's, including your neo. I'll agree

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-14 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Adam Krikstone writes: It's the same as a lost or stolen GSM phone. You can have your provider block the IMEI from registering. You can still use that phone on another provider but not with the provider that blocked it. I would not put the idea of blocking foreign IMEI aside as a carrier

Re: freetheiphone.org

2007-07-14 Thread Mark
My apologies to Mike, if I came off harsh on you, I was only referring to the site creators. It just really bugs me when people use irrelevant things to push their political agenda. If anyone has a good reason how 'freeing' a frequency that a device does not use will affect a device at all, by

freetheiphone.org

2007-07-13 Thread Mike
Just launched today, I figure we should be aware. Maybe we could turn this into an opportunity to increase awareness of the neo: http://freetheiphone.org/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org