Re: Artist Help (was Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones)

Congratulations, Your work proves that there are good open-source designs ;) Hope you can bring some good ideas to this project also. Regards, Sérgio Bessa Jesse Ross wrote: Hello! My name is Jesse Ross and I've just been kind of lurking for the past month and a half or so. I'm a web design

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

On 1/19/07, Gervais Mulongoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From Get-E website: EDJ comes from the word Edje, which is one of the Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (EFL). Here is a slightly edited (some references related to an old th

Artist Help (was Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones)

Hello! My name is Jesse Ross and I've just been kind of lurking for the past month and a half or so. I'm a web designer/graphic designer/ illustrator by trade, and have been contributing to a few open source projects for the past couple of years. Right now I'm primarily involved with the E

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

From Get-E website: EDJ comes from the word Edje, which is one of the Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (EFL). Here is a slightly edited (some references related to an old theme format that's no longer in use in E17 have been remove

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

Hank, I want to thank you for stimulating such a great discussion. I think I have an understanding of where your trying to go with this and I understand that having such a free and democratic process of creating an UI for a mobile platform would be very difficult. However, looking at other open

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

On Thursday 18 January 2007 21:47, Andreas Kostyrka wrote: > OTOH, there are people that don't buy an iPod > because it's so closed already. Hmm... some "can-opener" can be found here & there... http://www.rockbox.org (4G & 5G, Nano, Mini) http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net (1-2-3G) My wife is run

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > Dnia czwartek, 18 stycznia 2007 20:23, Robert Michel napisał: > >> this NSLU2 box is new - I desided to buy a NSLU2 because it is also ARM >> powered like the Neo1973 :) > > Your NSLU2 is/will be also powered by distro built with usage of the same > buildsystem as Ne

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

Dnia czwartek, 18 stycznia 2007 20:23, Robert Michel napisał: > this NSLU2 box is new - I desided to buy a NSLU2 because it is also ARM > powered like the Neo1973 :) Your NSLU2 is/will be also powered by distro built with usage of the same buildsystem as Neo1973 - OpenEmbedded. > and it is sup

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

Salve Rok! On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Rok Ruzic wrote: > > Non-Networkprovider dominated, user-orientated design: > > - white/black list for incomming calls/sms > > - answering machine on your phone > > - voice menues for anknown or anonymous caller > > Robert, you are mentioning black/white listing. D

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

I should clarify and say the issue that I am refering to specifically relates to UI/design. There are very few people that are good at it, so when those "good" people are not in absolute control and overly influnenced by committees, the design suffers. The good news about most open source products

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:05:49 +0100 Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Non-Networkprovider dominated, user-orientated design: > - white/black list for incomming calls/sms > - answering machine on your phone > - voice menues for anknown or anonymous caller Robert, you are mentioning blac

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

On 1/18/07, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe too many cooks spoil the stew, which is often a problem in open source, in my opinion. Its also often also a problem inside corporate development efforts. When there is no clear and absolute leadership, product design suffers. This is

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

On 1/18/07, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now I am not saying open source isnt great. But from your *average* users perspective I would love to hear the advantages of the open source for these devices. Is this just a geek issue? It seems like most of the apps described on this list cou

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

> It's the Linux-will-fork story all over. Empirical evidence suggests > that your fear won't happen. > >Nope. I don't have any fears and wasn't talking about forking. I am just >saying that often, too many cooks spoil the stew. Not really. What you are refering to is that not

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

* hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070118 14:44]: >I dont know what this means. What are you talking about... TiVo? Linux Nope, I had once an Ipaq with GPE, and it's UI was quite ok. The Qtopia thing is also quite fine. And I had phones that had obvious bugs in it. (Don't remember which pho

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

* Marnix Klooster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070118 13:33]: > On 1/18/07, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >What I mean by this is that it seems everyone is saying that the big > >difference is that you can get 3rd party *real apps* on the phone. And this > >is said as if windows mobile phones

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

Thanks. Great, very helpful answer! Hank On 1/18/07, Sencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/18/07, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I mean by this is that it seems everyone is saying that the big > difference is that you can get 3rd party *real apps* on the phone. Actually I th

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

On Thursday 18 January 2007 12:39, hank williams wrote: > What I mean by this is that it seems everyone is saying that the big > difference is that you can get 3rd party *real apps* on the phone. And this > is said as if windows mobile phones like moto q, blackjack and pocket PC > phones wont allow

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

On 1/18/07, Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070118 14:01]: > Beside the point that an *average* user doesn't see the potential of > open source on a mobile - what are your experiances and demands on > a smart phone? > > When yo

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

On 1/18/07, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What I mean by this is that it seems everyone is saying that the big difference is that you can get 3rd party *real apps* on the phone. Actually I think most people are saying, that you have full access to a) the hardware and b) to the source

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

* hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070118 14:01]: > Beside the point that an *average* user doesn't see the potential of > open source on a mobile - what are your experiances and demands on > a smart phone? > > When you look at the devices that you know or use(d): > - Wh

what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

Beside the point that an *average* user doesn't see the potential of open source on a mobile - what are your experiances and demands on a smart phone? When you look at the devices that you know or use(d): - What does you miss most? - What does you hate most? - What does you like/used most? wel

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

On 1/18/07, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What I mean by this is that it seems everyone is saying that the big difference is that you can get 3rd party *real apps* on the phone. And this is said as if windows mobile phones like moto q, blackjack and pocket PC phones wont allow this.

Re: what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

Salve hank! On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, hank williams wrote: > What I mean by this is that it seems everyone is saying that the big > difference is that you can get 3rd party *real apps* on the phone. And this > is said as if windows mobile phones like moto q, blackjack and pocket PC > phones wont allow

what is the difference between openMoko and windows mobile based phones

What I mean by this is that it seems everyone is saying that the big difference is that you can get 3rd party *real apps* on the phone. And this is said as if windows mobile phones like moto q, blackjack and pocket PC phones wont allow this. Now I am not saying open source isnt great. But from yo