Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-13 Thread Chevalier du Borg
2017-05-12 13:33 GMT+04:00 Tutu Ngcaba : > so many people condemn such policy other in ripe say it is stinking > meaning not good at all. to make debate more useful, take time to give statistiques on - number of people on {mailing_list} who agree with problem issue statement - number of people

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-13 Thread Chevalier du Borg
2017-05-13 23:52 GMT+04:00 Boubakar Barry : > Sorry, but with all respect, should we waste more time on this? YES WE SHOULD. While AFRINIC policy may not be right tool for this work, and organisation who mission is "Spearhead Internet development in Africa" cannot keep silent. I like to see so

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-13 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
Brother Owen How are you. So i dont understand how you ask me in the email but i shall tell you one important recommendations. Only the multistake holders process which is been for long long time like ISOC leslie said is what is beeen working. Do you know all places where government shutdown t

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-13 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
Brother David Ok you meet with ICANN Steve please you tell him i am not understood him well in the beggining when i watch this video first time. I got the confused but got it when you explained to me. Sorry for my confusion in the begging. But i thank you for clarification now. But you know of

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-13 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
M brother my brother Ish Do you know who appointed the supreme court in country... Its the president. So you think the judge will stop govermment when chaos is happening. Tell me one example where govermment or president order shutdown when no riot or chaos or protesting of the people. Tell me..

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-13 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi Tutu, On 14/05/17 00:23, Tutu Ngcaba wrote: > Now you find we technicians want to pretend to be ICC of Internet with the > Afrinic to also bring political technnical force. The government shall > smile and say ok no shutdown internet but because you like it. We shall > block all this facebook t

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-13 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
Brother Ish Sookum I shalln't respond to you as Mr.David Conrad of the ICANN CTO already cleared this doubt from me and he explaination is noted by me already including his good email. Even this proposal shall never go but it maybe make people talk more and raise the issue with our government. I

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-13 Thread Mark Elkins
On 13/05/2017 21:52, Boubakar Barry wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Ish Sookun > wrote: > > The debate seems to focus more on whether "this is our problem or not" > rather than improving the proposal to address the problem. > > > Sorry, but with all resp

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-13 Thread Boubakar Barry
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Ish Sookun wrote: > The debate seems to focus more on whether "this is our problem or not" > rather than improving the proposal to address the problem. > Sorry, but with all respect, should we waste more time on this? Boubakar > > > > _

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-13 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi David, On 13/05/17 12:35, David Conrad wrote: > > What Steve Crocker said during the RIPE meeting was not wrong: ICANN is a > multi-stakeholder organization, the ccNSO would probably be the place a > policy about punishing governments by removing ccTLDs from the root would be > initiated, a

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