Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Adewole Ajao
Thank you for propagating the "bad news", Sander. It is interesting that you "just noticed" this considering that certain community members have been amplifying impending doom at AFRINIC all over social media for several months now. I do however look forward to all of us sincerely working together

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Badru Ntege
Sandar Most member organizations will have problems and even the best individuals will have moments of weakness. AFRINIC is a technical organization with amazingly technical staff who do a very good job on a daily basis. We acknowledge we have some layer 9 problems thus the constiting of a gov

Re: [Community-Discuss] Board update on Governance Committee report

2018-05-09 Thread Gregoire EHOUMI via Community-Discuss
Dear Board, Most members of community have read that attachment document, THE COMPLAIN FOR HARASSMENT IN WORK ENVIRONMENT AT AFRINIC. How can you said that there was no evidence of HARASSMENT ? Please share with us a contrary information, if you have. Thanks, Grégoire EHOUMI > Le 6 mai 2018

Re: [Community-Discuss] [pdwg] RPD post roles

2018-05-09 Thread Kangamutima zabika Christophe
Messieur les Co-Présidents, Malgré mes innombrables plaintes, notre du Lundi 07/05/2018, les messages que je poste dans la liste de diffusion continuent d'être modéré sur base d'aucune décision justifiée, j'en conclus à une volonté manifeste de nuire à ma liberté d'expression sur cette liste d

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread sami
from day 1 the issue (not a problem) was post to a public list, so nothing new in this link and you post, beyond making the people down few hours before the PDP meeting which you claim it will be affected by such issue - I can't understand who ?! instead of being sad and cross posting negative

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Marcus K. G. Adomey
Sander, I am not surprise you are that you are sharing the "BAD NEWS" about the mess you and your friends from RIPE and ARIN are causing in AfriNIC in Community. This is a clear evidence that you are deploying your strategy to destroy AfriNIC. This is wicked and would come from EVIL GUYS like y

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Andrew Alston
Chairs! Code of conduct! Again by this individual who has already been sanctioned. Andrew From: Marcus K. G. Adomey [mailto:mado...@hotmail.com] Sent: 09 May 2018 12:16 To: Sander Steffann ; community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news Sander, I am not surprise you

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Markus, > I am not surprise you are that you are sharing the "BAD NEWS" about the mess > you and your friends from RIPE and ARIN are causing in AfriNIC in Community. > This is a clear evidence that you are deploying your strategy to destroy > AfriNIC. This is wicked and would come from EVIL

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Marcus K. G. Adomey
Andrew, When you misbehaved in Nairobi, was the code of conduct applied? Well you are part of those destroying this community. You have no moral right to talk about code of conduct. Shut up !!! Marcus Get Outlook for Android From: Andr

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Andrew Alston
Again - I call code of conduct on this post Andrew From: Marcus K. G. Adomey [mailto:mado...@hotmail.com] Sent: 09 May 2018 12:23 To: Sander Steffann ; community-discuss@afrinic.net; Andrew Alston Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news Andrew, When you misbehaved in Nairobi, was the code

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Marcus K. G. Adomey
Sander, You will tell us in this community that we are fools if we cannot be convinced that you and your friends are the authors of that message. what are you talking about. Marcus From: Sander Steffann Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:22:54 AM To: Marcus K.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, > You will tell us in this community that we are fools if we cannot be > convinced that you and your friends are the authors of that message. what are > you talking about. I (or any of my friends as far as I am aware) had nothing to do with the publication of that message. As far as I can

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Ali Hussein
Gentlemen and Ladies Step back for a minute before you and ask yourself:- 1. How is what I’m going to say helping Afrinic? 2. Am I being civil to whoever I disagree with? I believe we are civil enough to disagree without hurling insults and abuses at each other? Ali Hussein Principal Hussein &

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, > Step back for a minute before you and ask yourself:- > > 1. How is what I’m going to say helping Afrinic? > 2. Am I being civil to whoever I disagree with? I believe we are civil enough > to disagree without hurling insults and abuses at each other? Thank you, wise words. To those who did

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Alan Barrett
Dear Marcus, Dear Sander, In my opinion, the message from Marcus is a personal attack which is against the code of conduct. However, I understand that Marcus felt provoked by Sander’s message, which I think was unnecessary. (Both messages are copied below.) I ask you both to be more careful

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Boubakar Barry
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Sander Steffann wrote: > Hi, > > > You will tell us in this community that we are fools if we cannot be > convinced that you and your friends are the authors of that message. what > are you talking about. > > I (or any of my friends as far as I am aware) had nothin

Re: [Community-Discuss] [pdwg] RPD post roles

2018-05-09 Thread Dewole Ajao
Thanks for your email, Kangamutima. As I assured you during our discussion which I assumed was very cordial on Monday, your posts were to have been unmoderated and moderation removed from your email address in line with the expired time (which I admit you had to remind us of). There was a tech

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread sami
very will said Dr. Barry, I just want our people don't be drawn to inappropriate talk through provocative posts. From: "Boubakar Barry" To: "Sander Steffann" Cc: "community-discuss" Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 12:58:14 PM Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news On Wed, May 9, 20

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Andrew Alston
I’m sorry Alan, But I am nothing short of appalled that you can equate the sharing of what is VALID concern to this community and the RIR system – a situation that was created by AFRINIC – because no one else created it – with openly calling a member SATAN is just – absolutely mind blowing. Yo

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Sami Salih
Take it easy Mr. Alston In some African culture, satan is used as an adjective to describe some behavior, in is some cases it even has positive meaning, but you need to be real African to got the meaning. please try to respect the diversity of the Africans, and don't always refer the the meani

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Andrew Alston
Sami, Are you now implying that I am some how less African than you? Despite being raised in Africa, lived in Africa all my life and under African skies will I die? Your message implies that I am somehow not “A real African” – please can you clarify this? Andrew From: Sami Salih [mailto:s..

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 9 May 2018, at 11:42, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > I’m sorry Alan, > > But I am nothing short of appalled that you can equate the sharing of what is > VALID concern to this community and the RIR system – a situation that was > created by AFRINIC – because no one else created it – with o

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Alan, > On re-reading my message, I understand why it was seen as unfair. I > apologise for that. > > I do not believe that the first message (sharing a link) justified the second > (a personal attack). Thank you. Sorry to be causing more stress in these difficult times. Cheers, Sander

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Sami Salih
Andrew, Just reply because you ask, no one is pure we all have diversity and we happy to have that, you need to more self-reconciliation. Even my self im happy to have half African half Arab. again, take it easy. From: "Andrew Alston" To: "Sami Salih" Cc: "Alan Barrett" , "Marcus K. G. A

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Omo Oaiya
It seems the Registrar wants to be African too. Steffan has apologised for his faux-pas so this can die.Lesson to be learned by others who would rather tear down than build. -Omo > On 9 May 2018, at 05:09, Sami Salih wrote: > > Andrew, > Just reply because you ask, no one is pure we all

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Badru Ntege
Members Can i ask we close this thread. Since it has very little substance people end up going personal and this is not the time for us to be personal. Lets rally behind AfriNIC right now and fix our own issues as we always do. Lets focus on our agenda this week with policy and our AGMM tomor

Re: [Community-Discuss] Bad news

2018-05-09 Thread Noah
On Wed, 9 May 2018, 1:11 p.m. Badru Ntege, wrote: > Members > > > > Lets focus on our agenda this week with policy and our AGMM tomorrow. > In full agreement.. Noah ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Board update on Governance Committee Report

2018-05-09 Thread Noah
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:53 PM, Abibu Ntahigiye wrote: > Dear Afrinic Members, > > > The Board in March 2018, as per resolution 201803.391, tasked the > Governance Committee (GC) to convene an investigation on allegations made > by a staff member. The GC was requested to define the Terms of Refe