[cg] Housing and Urban Gardens

2004-10-06 Thread Adam36055
Friends, Community gardening is 50 percent gardening and 100 percent community activism and political action. This is a Manhattan Community Board 4 letter to Amanda Burden, the Commissioner of NYC Planning on a proposed development in  the Clinton Urban Renewal Area which includes theatres,

[cg] Korean Vegetable/Herb

2004-10-06 Thread Sharon Gordon
Some of the Korean gardeners at one of our garden sites grow a plant that seems to used as both a green and an herb. Unfortuantely I only know one Korean word, and none of the Korean gardeners speak more than a few words of English. So I'd like to describe it and see if anyone knows a latin or En

[cg] advice please re paying a stipend to a gardener

2004-10-06 Thread Jude Carson
Our garden has 100 plots and most of the people who garden go about their own business and do not help with communal jobs. This is despite people agreeing to help, signing up, etc. We have one gardener who has done most of the important routine tasks, like setting up and maintaining our water sy

Re: [cg] Korean Vegetable/Herb [shi do/ Zi su]

2004-10-06 Thread Pat_Elazar
is this the stuff? http://www.evergreenseeds.com/evergreenseeds/perjapshis.html __ The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find out ho

Re: [cg] advice please re paying a stipend to a gardener

2004-10-06 Thread Mike McGrath
absolutely, do it. and if he refuses to accept, buy him something he loves instead. and if he won't keep that, threaten to put in a bench with his name on a plaque on it! ---Mike McG - Original Message - From: Jude Carson To: [EMAIL P

Re: [cg] advice please re paying a stipend to a gardener

2004-10-06 Thread Adam36055
An idea, Why don't you attach it to a title, like "coodinator" so it seems more than like you're paying him for doing the crap work nobody wants to do? Everbest, Adam Honigman Volunteer, Clinton Community Garden > Subj: [cg] advice please re paying a stipend to a gardener > Date: 10/6/04

Re: [cg] advice please re paying a stipend to a gardener

2004-10-06 Thread Jack Hale
There is a big difference between recognizing people who do work above and beyond the call of duty for the benefit of all and paying people to do work. The former can be inspiring and heartwarming. The latter can lead people to think that they need not work unless they get paid. If you pay th

Re: [cg] Korean Vegetable/Herb [shi do/ Zi su]

2004-10-06 Thread Sharon Gordon
> is this the stuff? > http://www.evergreenseeds.com/evergreenseeds/perjapshis.html > ***I don't think so. It doesn't look quite like any perillas or shisos I've grown or that Evergreen has. The leaf on the mystery ones is a little more maple-leafy. Though I suppose it could be a different varie

Re: [cg] advice please re paying a stipend to a gardener

2004-10-06 Thread Lynn M. Gregor
Hello, I am currently dealing with a similar issue with one of the community gardens in Cleveland (similar though very different). Another large garden here does pay someone. He helps maintain some of the school property also on which the garden lies. Actually, it's also a security issue be

Re: [cg] advice please re paying a stipend to a gardener

2004-10-06 Thread Grow19
I'd agree that paying someone for such volunteer work should be a last resort after examining lots of alternatives and getting advise on re-engaging the garden members. In the long run, requiring people to do their part may be a bit hard, but a good waiting list will take care of this problem.

Re: [cg] advice please re paying a stipend to a gardener

2004-10-06 Thread Jude Carson
Thanks for the advice so far, and I think you are seeing that we are not comfortable with getting into a position that we pay someone for a volunteer position. Per haps we should go with a generous gist certificate, which we have done in the past. Really appreciate the input. Cheers from New Bru

Re: [cg] advice please re paying a stipend to a gardener

2004-10-06 Thread Grow19
in regard to the cleveland garden, would suggest that there be more of a leadership committee created with other people than 'the Leader' involved in communications, and development of a phone tree, so that more of the effort is shared on a regular basis. i always suggest a minimum of three 'le

Re: [cg] advice please re paying a stipend to a gardener

2004-10-06 Thread Grow19
I'd say that you should re-examine what is expected of people, increase the leadership team to at least three people, follow the cleveland model of expected # hrs of work per month or year, following up, losing plots if not participating, etc. Its a hard transition to make, but everyone needs t