Zen saying: Be the water, not the rock.
 
Don't resist, fight or struggle. Just flow on through.
That's not to say there aren't challenges, but to inspire a state of mind for 
approaching them.
 

Paco John Verin
City Wide Coordinator - Philadelphia Green
The Pennsylvania Horticultural Society
100 North 20th Street, 5th floor
Philadelphia, PA  19103-1495
Phone: 215-988-8885; Fax 215-988-8810
http://www.pennsylvaniahorticulturalsociety.org 
<http://www.pennsylvaniahorticulturalsociety.org/>  

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From: Diane Dodge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:39 PM
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Subject: [cg] Re: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #1209 - 1 msg



Reminds me of 30 years ago, when the food co-op movement started in Minnesota.  
The Minneapolis Health Department was there in a flash with their so-called 
regulations, their white gloves and an attitude.  But loyal co-opers prevailed, 
not so much with civil disobedience as with a form of subversive "obedience", 
and the movement prevailed.  So charge a nickel for "membership" and go ahead 
and have one hell of a potluck--someone could stand down the street with a 
pocketful of nickels.

Go for it!

Diane Dodge



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>Subject: [cg] Great for potlucks, folks? 
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>Hi Folks, 
> 
>Recently Spokane Tilth, a local sustainable food and agriculture 
>organization and a chapter of Washington State Tilth, sponsored an 
>"evening to honor our local farmers and gardeners and celebrate the 
>harvest season." 
> 
>The "Local Harvest Celebration & Potluck Dinner" was billed as a 
>fundraiser for the organization and folks were asked to donate a minimum 
>of $10 per family at the door. But, "no one will be turned away for lack 
>of funds, but please bring some prepared food to share." Participants 
>were encouraged to bring food that was grown or produced within a 
>100-mile radius of Spokane. The celebration was all about local food. 
> 
>The local health district must have decided that the participants were 
>"public enemy number 1." Their reaction is probably common across the 
>country these days. 
> 
>"Spokane Regional Health District is cracking down on potlucks. 
> 
>Last week, Spokane Tilth ran a small newspaper announcement that it was 
>holding a potluck meal during its harvest celebration. Spokane Tilth 
>promotes sustainable agriculture. Many members are organic farmers. Their 
>lives revolve about being conscientious about what they eat. 
> 
>But as soon as Health District officials saw the potluck ad in the 
>newspaper, they called Tilth and threatened prosecution if the group went 
>ahead with the potluck. Tilth went ahead with the event - sans food. 
> 
>According to Health Officer Dr. Kim Thorburn, churches and other 
>organizations can hold potlucks as long as they're for members only. But 
>if they invite the public, it's illegal. 
> 
>Tilth program coordinator Chris Ostrander is not happy with a law banning 
>a community practice that's thousands of years old. He plans a statewide 
>campaign to "decriminalize community potlucks." 
>http://www.thelocalplanet.com/Archives/Authors/Article.asp?ArticleID=3316 
>: 
> 
>Steve Smoot 
> 
> > Message: 7 
> > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 05:54:08 -0500 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > From: Allan Balliett 
> > Subject: Fwd: Re: [cg] Slow Food 
> > 
> > BACK on the recent Slow Food 'conference' in NYC...did anyone on the 
> > 
> > list attend? 
> > 
> > The registration fee was around $300, If I remember correctly. This, 
> > 
> > of course, confirms the elitist accusations. I'm hoping, however, 
> > that someone will tell me that there were activist rates, also. 
> > 
> > Expanding on Adam's and other remarks, Slow Food Movement is one of 
> > 
> > the several attempts to preserve the 'local taste' that is being 
> > sacrificed worldwide to the worldview that spawned NAFTA, the view 
> > the believes everything will be better if everything is the same. 
> > The 
> > USDA Organic Certification is another step in this worldview, 
> > reducing organics to a list of approved inputs while ignoring the 
> > strong ecological and biological emphasis of grassroots organic 
> > farming and gardening. 
> > 
> > Robert Graves said that when the taste for local cuisine is lost, 
> > then everything is lost and people readily follow men on horseback. 
> > A 
> > local taste can be lost forwever in one generation, particularly 
> > since the senses of taste and smell are so difficult to chronicle. I 
> > 
> > feel that the obligation to preserve these local flavors have fallen 
> > 
> > on we who are sensitive to realize their preciousness. 
> > 
> > A person can internalize these values and occasionally cook meals of 
> > 
> > AUTHENTIC INGREDIENTS, from FRESH, LOCAL, ECOLOGICALLY GROWN sources 
> > 
> > and still feel part of this movement. 
> > 
> > Great for potlucks, folks. What are you doing this Sunday? ;-) 
> > 
> > -Allan Balliett 
> > BD Now! The Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion Group 
> > Shepherdstown, WV 
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Steve Smoot

> Message: 7
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> = 
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> BACK on the recent Slow Food 'conference' in NYC...= 
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> 
> = 
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> The 
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> 
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