Re: [Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2013-12-08 Thread Aleve Sicofante
2013/12/8 David Wolfe > All to save what? 24 pixels of vertical space? Ludicrous. Actually the global menu per se is not the issue here. Almost every commenter likes it; just not the way it behaves _exclusively_ (not "by default", since there are barely any options). So I would rephrase to say

Re: [Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2013-12-04 Thread Aleve Sicofante
2013/12/4 Ryan Koesters > @Aleve Sicofante: Can you explain what you mean by resist updates? > > I mean, will we have to apply the patch after each update? Sometimes updates overwrite patched versions of Unity. I'm asking if this patch suffers from the same or is it independent

Re: [Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2013-12-04 Thread Aleve Sicofante
Will this patch "resist" updates? 2013/12/4 Ryan Koesters > @Mateusz Stachowski: I am currently working on a patch to do that for > unity-control-center. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 > > Titl

Re: [Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2013-07-24 Thread Aleve Sicofante
I'm confused. This bug can only be solved in future versions of Unity. Since current is Unity 7 and the design hasn't been changed, our first hopes go to Unity 8, where Compiz won't be used at all. So unless Unity 7 introduces the desired behavior in 13.10, which seems unlikely (since nobody has e

Re: [Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2013-07-22 Thread Aleve Sicofante
Sorry for my ignorance. What exact changes have happened to Compiz regarding this bug that you're informing us about here? 2013/7/22 Sam Spilsbury > ** Changed in: compiz > Milestone: 0.9.10.0 => 0.9.10.2 > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of compiz packagers,

[Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2013-06-08 Thread Aleve Sicofante
This bug isn't fixed in 13.04 yet. Maybe the developers John Lea and Marco Trevisan (TreviƱo) could chime in and let everybody know if we can expect it to be fixed in 13.10? Thanks. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of compiz packagers, which is subscribed to compiz

Re: [Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2013-05-16 Thread Aleve Sicofante
@Leonardo Donelli: Have you actually read this bug report at all? People here is not against the global menu per se. Gosh, even the title says it very clear!!! All we want is IMPROVEMENT, which in this case means some pretty well argued options (compared to the total lack of rationale for the curre

[Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2013-05-13 Thread Aleve Sicofante
LIM has been announced for Saucy. I understand it's not a proper announcement, but just an idea in the ongoing UDS. Whoever is attending the UDS, please remind the team of this hugely followed bug. If they're planning an overhaul of the menu system, they should pay attention to everything that has

Re: [Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2013-01-28 Thread Aleve Sicofante
2013/1/28 Chad Germann > >in other words: show the title of the window > >whenever the mouse is on the top bar but outside the menu area > > And we don't see the problem with this whole thing by how many words it > took to type that? Actually, my "other words" are pretty few. You bet I would ha

Re: [Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2013-01-24 Thread Aleve Sicofante
2013/1/24 Chad Germann > And just remove the vanishing functionality completely. its not like > that panel area is being used for anything else. > > It's used for the window's buttons and title when in maximized mode, and the application name when non-maximized. The solution is to show the title

Re: [Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2013-01-22 Thread Aleve Sicofante
2013/1/23 Brad Jensen > WHY are we auto-hiding menu options? Because the owner of the playground believes it's more aesthetically pleasing and that the menus are disturbing, ugly and awkward. He also believes this pack of peculiar opinions form a "rationale". Basic logic is not his forte. He's

[Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2012-11-23 Thread Aleve Sicofante
There you go guys: we're just a bunch of petulants. That's PR at it's best Mr. Shuttlerworth. Good job, as usual. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of compiz packagers, which is subscribed to compiz in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682788 Title: Improve U

[Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2012-11-23 Thread Aleve Sicofante
Guys: stop discussing the implementation. The design team and the Ayatana team have all the briefing and are working on this. There's only one question remaining: WHEN? This bug was to be solved for 12.04, then 12.10... Mark Shuttleworth promised well before 12.04 that the default menu behaviour

Re: [Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2012-10-19 Thread Aleve Sicofante
2012/10/20 Kamran Mackey > Fixed the issue, You can check for updates using the Software Updater to > update your software.To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/682788/+subscriptions > Thanks for your effort but I just updated my system an

[Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2012-10-12 Thread Aleve Sicofante
@Pedro: no offense but I'd say new designs are not the issue here. It was pretty much established months ago. We're just waiting for implementation and some voice from the devs camp to explain what's going on. What's stopping them from implementing and publishing the fix. I think your proposals mi

[Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity Global Menu

2012-10-11 Thread Aleve Sicofante
What I find appaling here is that we're a few days away from 12.10's release and not a single developer has had the courtesy of explaning to the 614 people affected by this bug what's being done (or not done) about it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of compiz pack

[Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity menus

2012-09-16 Thread Aleve Sicofante
@Rachel Greenham: I couldn't agree more with you. We need to solve one single issue first: show the global menu all the time, then proceed with caution for any other options. Just a few comments/suggestion on the main and secondary issues: - Showing global menu permanently will hide the title of

[Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity menus

2012-09-13 Thread Aleve Sicofante
I'm really confused. LIM and those two mockups have NOTHING to do with how the global menu behaves or the original description of the Enhanced Menu project (described in the "Desired change" section of the description). How is it a solution to the VERY SERIOUS ISSUE that the global menu hides, ma

Re: [Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity menus

2012-09-13 Thread Aleve Sicofante
2012/9/13 Pedro Bessa <682...@bugs.launchpad.net> > Development stopped, because there are lots of ***disagreements*** > between us all. > > There were three alternatives. > [] global menu on > [] global menu off > [] global menu only on maximized windows > We came up with new alternatives. > [] m

[Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity menus

2012-09-01 Thread Aleve Sicofante
Thanks, but I'm expecting global menu options, not the LIM. you know: [x] Global Menu on [x] Global Menu off [x] Global Menu only for maximized windows We had been promised some of this would land on Precise. I understand it couldn't make it, but hoped it would be in Quantal. Can any Ubuntu deve

[Compiz] [Bug 682788] Re: Improve Unity menus

2012-08-19 Thread Aleve Sicofante
Just tested Quantal's daily build and there doesn't seem to be any changes from Precise. Will this be ready for feature freeze? I checked at Settings->Appearance->Behavior, maybe the configuration is somewhere else? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of compiz package

[Compiz] [Bug 996604] Re: When number of workspaces is set to 1, the Spread no longer works

2012-06-28 Thread Aleve Sicofante
@Sebastian Bacher: I always forget this is Ubuntu and arrogance is a requirement to have some power in the organization. Sorry Sebastian for forgetting the basic rules. If you really can't understand what I and a few others have said here about newbies having difficulties with workspaces (and why

[Compiz] [Bug 996604] Re: When number of workspaces is set to 1, the Spread no longer works

2012-06-28 Thread Aleve Sicofante
Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote on 2012-05-18: "I just lowered the importance because it means most users will not be affected by the issue, only few technical users go out of their way to go and change such options" As others have already stated, this is simply false. Now that you know it, will