On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 02:41 -0600, Nick Apperson wrote:
I am not trying to say that you don't know what you are talking about,
but how are you so sure that we must be on the linear part of the
curve? Based on what you said, I estimate your ideal (non empirical)
formula to be something like
I second Mark Boon's comment.
On 1/26/07, Mark Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am I the only one who got tired of this rather pointless discussion a
hundred messages ago? I also can't help feeling that the tone of the
discussion tends to get such that it can easily be mistaken for lack
of respect
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 13:38 +, ivan dubois wrote:
However, if you take for example a computer programm that does
straight UCT (global UCT, with no sub-areas), then i believe it can
not scale well when board size increases. Because the branching would
factor increase proportinaly to the
- Original Message From: Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This can be tested directly. In my own experiments 19x19
improves very rapidly in UCT with each doubling of the
number of play-outs.
May I ask the range of number of playouts tested?
Have you considered taking up David
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 10:22 -0800, terry mcintyre wrote:
- Original Message From: Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This can be tested directly. In my own experiments 19x19
improves very rapidly in UCT with each doubling of the
number of play-outs.
May I ask the range of
You missunderstood my point. However, I admit it was not clear. What i wanted
to say is this :
Given a fixed amount of time, strength of monte-carlo algorithm will decrease
exponentialy when boardsize increases.
It does not mean that monte-carlo does not scale well with time on 19*19.
Of
Does anyone here have experience with the GTK user interface
library for Windows or for OSX ?
- Don
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I see what you are saying. Yes, I agree with you that the
strength of these programs will decrease exponentially as
board sizes increase.
By the way, I haven't been offended by any of these messages
and I hope I haven't offended anyone either. This is a very
interesting conversation to me
- Original Message From: Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
May I ask the range of number of playouts tested?
I'm still curious about this question?
Part of my procrastination [ about using 72 processors ] is that
I'm not sure how to make UCT scale to a large number of CPU's.
I am an
I personally would love to see more experimental results and less
feelings and intuitions on this list.
On 1/26/07, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 11:32 -0800, terry mcintyre wrote:
- Original Message From: Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
May I ask the
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 14:43 -0500, Don Dailey wrote:
I don't currently have the data, but I am willing to reproduce
the experiment. Other MC guys can verify it. I'll set it up
on a slow computer I have free and I'll start at 64 simulations
on a 19x19 board.I'll play 200 games in pairs,
Hey all,
don't know if any of you are intereseted, but I am giveing out my GTP
wrappers written in C++. I hope to improve them and add more features with
time.
http://www.nicholasapperson.com/go/computer
Any feedback is always welcome.
- Nick
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On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 14:47 -0500, Chris Fant wrote:
I personally would love to see more experimental results and less
feelings and intuitions on this list.
I agree. I will post my data as I go. Just for reference, this
is the the Lazarus program that is currently rated at 1807 on CGOS
but
Arend Bayer wrote:
. . without ever believing anything that some of the strong go players
(some a lot stronger than me) have to say.
Please, don't think that. I am sure there is more people in this list who,
like myself, do not think computer go will do it through global search
only. The
So I was thinking. I wonder if anyone has written a go engine that can play
using only the time that it takes their opponent to think. It seems some of
your monte carlo programs would be able to do this decently well. Has
anyone tried to see how much it hurts the ranking of a program? I would
I would highly recommend that you do your testing against
a different Go engine. Self-play is a weak indicator.
Cheers,
David
On 26, Jan 2007, at 5:39 PM, Don Dailey wrote:
Here are some early results on the scalability study.
Basically, level 2 beats level 1 83.6 percent of the time.
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