Re: [Computer-go] I would like people to play with correct handicap to get a more reliable rating

2015-10-02 Thread David Fotland
I don’t share or take code from other programs because Many Faces of Go is commercial. Many other programs have licenses that are not compatible with commercial use, so I'm careful not to even look at their source code. We share ideas all the time, through publications, informal conversations

Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 69, Issue 2

2015-10-02 Thread djhbrown .
. "sharing code is typically not going to be practical." that's not what i suggested. perhaps someone else can explain the concept of message-passing distributed architecture better than me ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 69, Issue 2

2015-10-02 Thread Jim O'Flaherty
You mean literally the slowest of all the constraints in all of software engineering (excluding waiting on UI input) in a domain that cannot currently get enough unconstrained CPU and memory cycles? On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 8:53 AM, djhbrown . wrote: > . > "sharing code is

Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 69, Issue 2

2015-10-02 Thread David Doshay
SlugGo used message passing in a distributed architecture and started as a shell over the top of multiple instantiations of GNU Go in order to evaluate a look-ahead tree that GNU Go did not build. It was one of the strongest programs before the MCTS programs hit their stride. Now it would not

Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 69, Issue 2

2015-10-02 Thread Petri Pitkanen
I think very few people here do not know message passing style of programming. I just not suited problem at hand. Not very cPU efficient. This is high speed simulation anyways 2015-10-02 16:53 GMT+03:00 djhbrown . : > . > "sharing code is typically not going to be

Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 69, Issue 2

2015-10-02 Thread Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira
I actually agree some form of more de facto cooperation could exist. Message passing is already used in clusters anyways, some hierarchical architecture for Go with different providers could be implemented. There are two immediate problems however: 1. Brown said there are some programs that

Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 69, Issue 2

2015-10-02 Thread David Doshay
The messages need not be used on a single CPU; in SlugGo MPI was our way to start jobs on remote nodes. The time to wrap and unwrap the messages was not significant compared to the time used to calculate a suggested move. Cheers, David G Doshay ddos...@mac.com > On 2, Oct 2015, at 11:26

[Computer-go] modus operandi

2015-10-02 Thread djhbrown .
"To have a joint effort there would have to be a strong financial force to pull everyone into the same time table, licensing model, and so on". Money does make the world go around. Anthropologists and sociologists and investigative journalists have revealed that throughout the history of mankind,

Re: [Computer-go] modus operandi

2015-10-02 Thread Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira
Maybe someone in need of ideas for MSc/PhDs, or a taste for social activism will pick up that idea. Yes, you, if you're reading this, you can become the next Stallman. Just imagine the amount of resources (read: money) that would pour in if people were convinced of a Russia+China vs The World

Re: [Computer-go] modus operandi

2015-10-02 Thread 甲斐徳本
When and how is this Goggernaut starting? In order for Petr Baudis' students in Prague and the UEC gang in Tokyo to be involved, I'd think communications issue needs to be high on the priorities. And that is something I am willing to curtail my rose smelling activities and help. Do any of you