: Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to David Fotland and Many Faces
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Andy wrote:
> > See attached a copy of the .sgf. It was played private on KGS so you
> > can't get it there directly. One of the admins cloned it and I saved
> > it off lo
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Andy wrote:
> See attached a copy of the .sgf. It was played private on KGS so you
> can't get it there directly. One of the admins cloned it and I saved
> it off locally.
>
> I changed the result to be B+4.5 instead of W+2.5.
I forgot to make a disclaimer: I a
On Feb 16, 2009, at 5:45 PM, Andy wrote:
See attached a copy of the .sgf. It was played private on KGS so you
can't get it there directly. One of the admins cloned it and I saved
it off locally.
I changed the result to be B+4.5 instead of W+2.5.
Here is another copy of the game record, wit
See attached a copy of the .sgf. It was played private on KGS so you
can't get it there directly. One of the admins cloned it and I saved
it off locally.
I changed the result to be B+4.5 instead of W+2.5.
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Bob Hearn wrote:
> Many Faces won its match today again
Many Faces won its match today against James Kerwin 1p, played at 7
stones, by 4.5 points. The program was running on a 32-core cluster
supplied by Microsoft. The match was played live in front of a press
briefing at the 2009 AAAS general meeting.
The game record will be available on KGS sh
It was 4x 8-cores.
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of terry mcintyre
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:23 AM
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> Subject: Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to David Fotland!
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> Is Microsoft now selling computers? Interesting...
Sorry, after checking the Microsoft HPC site that looks like it was my
misunderstanding; they are just selling the O/S. A shame, as Microsoft
have always done hardware better than software. (Okay, I admit my
hardware experience is limited to the
David
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Is Microsoft now selling computers? Interesting...
Let me chime in wi
Behalf Of Michael Markefka
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to David Fotland!
So, when are we going to see distributed computing? [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] With Go engines that scale well to
Is Microsoft now selling computers? Interesting...
Let me chime in with my congratulations to David.
Mark
On 2-okt-08, at 20:52, Darren Cook wrote:
investment. If we can find corporate sponsors, it should not be hard
to gain access to such hardware. Reading between the lines, I think
> investment. If we can find corporate sponsors, it should not be hard
> to gain access to such hardware. Reading between the lines, I think
> some Microsoft wunderkind may be backing Dave Fotland.
It seems Microsoft are selling such hardware and approached David while
looking for some applicati
Hideki Kato wrote:
Don Dailey: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 19:17 +0200, Michael Markefka wrote:
So, when are we going to see distributed computing? [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] With Go engines that scale well to increased
processing capacity, imagine f
Don Dailey: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 19:17 +0200, Michael Markefka wrote:
>> So, when are we going to see distributed computing? [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] With Go engines that scale well to
>> increased
>> processing capacity, imagine facilita
Also you have to look at the amount of computation per unit communication. For instance factoring huge numbers is an excellent application for a grid because
with just a few bytes of data, you can keep a CPU busy for a very long time. Regular Go programs don't fit this model. Maybe there someth
Don't forget that we are already using machines with thousands of nodes
and so to really benefit from something like boinc you would have to do
quite a bit better than this.
And if more than one of us were to do it, we would be competing for
resources with each other, not to mention the other inte
sure, this would work much better, and is easy to implement
(diameter is log(# nodes) if you set it up as an expander!).
but writing it from scratch is a bit of a burden. i may have
a project like this next semester for my networking class, if so,
we can tack the rest onto it if anyone's interest
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM, steve uurtamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The networking issue is somewhat more serious.
> Not the actual network delay, but the mechanism
> that the boinc client software uses to process work requests
> and the interval at which people typically send
> back their r
The fault tolerance is not a serious problem, even
being tolerant against false result reporting isn't
too bad with a decent error-correcting coding
scheme for handing out the work.
The networking issue is somewhat more serious.
Not the actual network delay, but the mechanism
that the boinc client
Yes, various kinds of off-line (not in-game) processing could be done.
But nothing in a real-time game.
Cheers,
David
On 2, Oct 2008, at 10:48 AM, terry mcintyre wrote:
An @home network might be better for things such as creating opening
books, testing algorithms, etc.
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For the use of fast networks:
yes, fast networks improve the results, in particular for 9x9, in my humble
opinion - however, you have already a good speed-up without
that, in particular for 19x19, and in particular if you have multiple cores
per node so that one core can take care of communications
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 19:17 +0200, Michael Markefka wrote:
> So, when are we going to see distributed computing? [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] With Go engines that scale well to
> increased
> processing capacity, imagine facilitating a few thousand PCs to do the
> co
The @home systems work great for big problems that do not have time
constraints. Game playing is interactive and people expect reasonably
quick replies. The problem with @home computational models is that you
never know when the user will want their machine back, so you have the
problem of
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> Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 10:17:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to David Fotland!
>
> So, when are we going to see distributed computing? [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] With Go engines that scale well to
So, when are we going to see distributed computing? [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] With Go engines that scale well to increased
processing capacity, imagine facilitating a few thousand PCs to do the
computing. For good measure, [EMAIL PROTECTED] as about 800,000 nodes on
Mogo was allowed to use 800 cores, not more, and only for games against
humans.
We have no acces to so many cores for computer-computer games (if there were
only three teams involved,
we could :-) ).
For some games Huygens was unaivalable at all, and mogo played with much
weaker hardware (some quad
Huygens has 3328 cores, but I do not believe that Mogo
has run on more than 800, the number used for both
exhibition matches against Kim Myungwan.
Cheers,
David
On 2, Oct 2008, at 9:16 AM, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
Mogo runs on Huygens, which is 3328 cores...
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Gian-Carlo Pascutto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Zach Wegner wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Ian Osgood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Congratulations! Both for the gold, and for defeating Mogo. I never
>>> thought I'd see the day that the Go tournament
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> Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 9:08:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to David Fotland!
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Ian Osgood wrote:
> > Congratulations! Both for the gold, and for defeating Mogo. I never
> > thought I'
Zach Wegner wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Ian Osgood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Congratulations! Both for the gold, and for defeating Mogo. I never
>> thought I'd see the day that the Go tournaments would bring heavier hardware
>> than the chess championship!
>
> You realize, of c
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Ian Osgood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Congratulations! Both for the gold, and for defeating Mogo. I never
> thought I'd see the day that the Go tournaments would bring heavier hardware
> than the chess championship!
You realize, of course, that Rybka played on
Darren Cook wrote:
>> Congratulations!
>
> Yes, well done David. I see Many Faces won even without getting the loss
> to Mogo reversed.
There was an investigation after my complaint, and the conclusion was this:
Mogo did score the game correctly, and Many Faces did not. The server
did not go to
Ingo Althöfer wrote:
> Rank 2 for MoGo after tiebreak against Leela.
Hello,
the tiebreak is not yet finished! Place 2 and 3 are still undecided.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:47 AM
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Congratulations! Both for the gold, and for defeating Mogo. I never
thought I'd see the day that the Go tournaments woul
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to David Fotland!
> Congratulations!
Yes, well done David. I see Many Faces won even without getting the loss
to Mogo reversed.
> I was surprised to hear that there were now only thirte
a
small box.
David
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:23 AM
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I'm curious -- was this an 8 x quad-core box? Should
t; From: David Doshay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 9:13:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [computer-go] Congratulations to David Fotland!
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> Hi David,
>
> Did you take those machines to China?
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
&g
Hi David,
Did you take those machines to China?
Cheers,
David
On 1, Oct 2008, at 6:14 AM, David Fotland wrote:
I was doing about 40 million playouts per move on 32 Xeon
processors and he had eight cores.
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> Congratulations!
Yes, well done David. I see Many Faces won even without getting the loss
to Mogo reversed.
> I was surprised to hear that there were now only thirteen entrants. Why
> did Prof. Chen withdraw Go Intellect?
I think he was having computer trouble and the loan computer would hav
on Friday.
David
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Althöfer"
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:30 AM
To: computer-go@computer-go.org
Subject: [computer-go] Congratulations to David Fotland!
His program Many Faces of Go has
"Ingo Althöfer"
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:30 AM
To: computer-go@computer-go.org
Subject: [computer-go] Congratulations to David Fotland!
His program Many Faces of Go has become winner
in the 9x9-Go competition in the
"13th International Computer Games Championship",
held in
His program Many Faces of Go has become winner
in the 9x9-Go competition in the
"13th International Computer Games Championship",
held in Beijing.
Rank 2 for MoGo after tiebreak against Leela.
http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/tournament.php?id=180
with table and sgf of many games.
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