Re: [computer-go] Mogo MCTS is not UCT ? (GENERALIZED_AMAF)

2008-12-02 Thread Mark Boon
orithm) I did not however tried to compare that win ratio, with the win ratio i would have got out of standard Amaf. Best regard, Denis FIDAALI. > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:55:03 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Mogo MCTS is not U

RE: [computer-go] Mogo MCTS is not UCT ? (GENERALIZED_AMAF)

2008-12-02 Thread Denis fidaali
; Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:55:03 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Mogo MCTS is not UCT ? > > > I think it's now well known that Mogo doesn't use UCT. > > I realize that i have no idea at all what Mogo do use fo

Re: [computer-go] Mogo MCTS is not UCT ?

2008-12-01 Thread Mark Boon
On 1-dec-08, at 18:55, Olivier Teytaud wrote: I think it's now well known that Mogo doesn't use UCT. I realize that i have no idea at all what Mogo do use for it's MCTS. A complicated formula mixing (i) patterns (ii) rules (iii) rave values (iv) online statistics Isn't that technically st

Re: [computer-go] Mogo MCTS is not UCT ?

2008-12-01 Thread Olivier Teytaud
> I think it's now well known that Mogo doesn't use UCT. > I realize that i have no idea at all what Mogo do use for > it's MCTS. A complicated formula mixing (i) patterns (ii) rules (iii) rave values (iv) online statistics Also we have a little learning (i.e. late parts of simulations are evolv

RE: [computer-go] Mogo MCTS is not UCT ?

2008-12-01 Thread Denis fidaali
Let's assume that the UCT formula is UCTValue(parent, n) = winrate + sqrt((ln(parent.visits))/(5*n.nodevisits)) (taken from sensei library) What is the Upper confidence bound term ? That would'nt be sqrt((ln(parent.visits))/(5*n.nodevisits)) ?? I doubt that exploring only the move with the

Re: [computer-go] Mogo MCTS is not UCT ?

2008-12-01 Thread Jason House
On Dec 1, 2008, at 3:38 AM, Denis fidaali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think it's now well known that Mogo doesn't use UCT. I realize that i have no idea at all what Mogo do use for it's MCTS. There are only two things i dislike about UCT : - It's slow to compute. - It's deterministic I r

[computer-go] Mogo MCTS is not UCT ?

2008-12-01 Thread Denis fidaali
I think it's now well known that Mogo doesn't use UCT. I realize that i have no idea at all what Mogo do use for it's MCTS. There are only two things i dislike about UCT : - It's slow to compute. - It's deterministic I really wonder if there was an article describing the new MCTS of mogo some