Re: [CGUYS] (spam) Test

2008-08-14 Thread mike
We could always do the standard marco, polo to make sure we are still live...or ping, pong like irc. Mac... On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many lists, this one included, go silent for days, weeks, or months at a time. Sending test messages to the list just to

Re: [CGUYS] Report: Sky Not Falling

2008-08-14 Thread Jeff Wright
I'm starting to think Steve Jobs needs to start calling himself Steve Jones. For a second there, my mind inserted Tom's name instead of Steve's. Tom as a Sex Pistol? Heh. Tommy Rotten? [giggle] * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] (spam) Test

2008-08-14 Thread John Emmerling
Another approach is to check these archives: http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-lr=1w=2 If the list is truly down (which has happened at least once this year) the lack of recent posts should be obvious. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:32 AM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could always do the

[CGUYS] wash post on laptops

2008-08-14 Thread gerald
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/13/AR2008081303480.html guy is sort of a pc leaning person, really dumps on Vista. if i knew now how big a pain vista would be, i would have purchased a mac, in spite of the very large price difference.

[CGUYS] Images imbedded in Eudora with Vista

2008-08-14 Thread gerald
when someone like circuit city,ecost, buy.com include images in their emails, i get the images. when my email friends send pictures that they have imbedded, i get the area marked off, and a small red x in the upper left hand corner of the box. eudoria 7.1.xxx , foxfire 3 and vista with latest

[CGUYS] My Macintosh saga...a small addendum

2008-08-14 Thread Steve Rigby
Apple has waived any monetary charges, which I thought I'd have to pay, in the settling of how to handle the failure of my out-of- warranty, 2003 Powerbook. At a minimum, they could have charged me for diagnosing the cause of the failure, which turned out to be the logic board. As I

Re: [CGUYS] wash post on laptops

2008-08-14 Thread mike
In your next email you mention using eudora. I'm wondering what sort of pain Vista was. I've been using it since SP 1 came out and have had no problems at all with it. I'm wondering if part of the problems you may be experiencing could be related to software not updated for Vista? Eudora is

Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving

2008-08-14 Thread mike
How much data currently do you archive? How much are you increasing over X amount of time? How often do you have to access archived data as opposed to current data, or do you access it as opposed to just store it? Mike On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:16 AM, David Turk [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: We're

Re: [CGUYS] wash post on laptops

2008-08-14 Thread Chris Dunford
In your next email you mention using eudora. I'm wondering what sort of pain Vista was. I've been using it since SP 1 came out and have had no problems at all with it Yeah, I was going to send the same basic message but I didn't want to sound like a broken record with What problems exactly

Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving

2008-08-14 Thread David Turk
About 15-20GB every 2-3 months. This will probably increase to about 20-25GB over the next few months, as several new projects will be starting. Some archived files get accessed every few weeks. The idea was to take the stress off the network drives (the largest of which is 700GB), but still

Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving

2008-08-14 Thread Fred Holmes
To me, backups and archives are different. Archives are accessible. Backups are stored where they are completely protected by an air gap or better -- at least one set should be. Why not just add another network drive or two for the archives? If appropriate, keep the archive drives turned

Re: [CGUYS] (no-spam) Test

2008-08-14 Thread b_s-wilk
Many lists, this one included, go silent for days, weeks, or months at a time. Sending test messages to the list just to see if it's working is SPAM. Two solutions. One, just wait until someone else starts a new thread. Second, try to start one yourself with any list-related comment or

Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving

2008-08-14 Thread John DeCarlo
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me, backups and archives are different. Archives are accessible. Backups are stored where they are completely protected by an air gap or better -- at least one set should be. Why not just add another network drive or

Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving

2008-08-14 Thread Snyder, Mark (IT CIV)
About 2-3 years ago, I worked on a proposal for Gov't Printing Office. Even by then, organizations with large storage needs learned to distinguish between on-line with quick access (very fast SAN/RAID with 10-15K RPM Enterprise disks) and online storage that was still mostly enterprise quality,

Re: [CGUYS] (no-spam) Test

2008-08-14 Thread Tony B
There's nothing hostile about educating people on how mailing lists work. How are they supposed to learn if no one tells them? He _sent_ spam to the list, I _told_ him he sent spam to the list, and offered suggestions how to avoid same in future. No hostility intended or included; it's all in your

Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving

2008-08-14 Thread db
I agree... the fast online data backup/ access is expensive and the slow online storage reasonable and for now the twain shan't meet. But as long as you are looking to add retrieval speed and continue the tape bkup you referred to, and considering that hardware is relatively cheap these

Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving

2008-08-14 Thread mike
This is what I was thinking...an inexpensive RAID solution. Or if you have a little more cash, Drobo. www.drobo.com Drobo is a RAID box that handles all the pesky RAID stuff for you, allowing you to put any size hard drives in the box. Most RAIDS need same size HD's across the board. So if

Re: [CGUYS] (no-spam) Test

2008-08-14 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There's nothing hostile about educating people on how mailing lists work. How are they supposed to learn if no one tells them? He _sent_ spam to the list, I _told_ him he sent spam to the list, and offered suggestions how to avoid same in future. No hostility

Re: [CGUYS] (spam) Test

2008-08-14 Thread Richard P.
Clarification: I had tried both of these suggestions, prior to sending out a confirmation test request. I did start a new thread (Registry Error, 8/11/08), to which no one had responded. While I could see other's posts, I could not see my own post in my Gmail account. In trying to see whether my

Re: [CGUYS] DVD's vs. External hard drives for archiving

2008-08-14 Thread db
Everyone likes the drobo roboticized virtual RAID concept but it is expensive by the time you have bought the drives... and if you read the reviews: http://review.zdnet.com/external-hard-drives/drobo-second-generation-2tb/4505-3190_16-33142477.html

Re: [CGUYS] Registry Error

2008-08-14 Thread Tony B
I'll bite. What have we proved? errr proven? If I got that error I would just restore last night's image. Take me about 15 minutes to restore my C drive to where it was at 7pm last night. All my apps and data on my D and M drives would still be fine. Who knows what might have caused it? Bytes on

[CGUYS] Frankenstein iPod

2008-08-14 Thread b_s-wilk
My 20GB iPod's hard drive died. Since the Toshiba 40/60/80GB 1.8-inch drives are very close to the same dimensions, could the mobo in the old iPod handle a bigger drive? I have several dead or dying iPods, mostly due to abuse [dropped into water, held/swung by cable instead of in hand, left

Re: [CGUYS] Registry Error

2008-08-14 Thread Steve at Verizon
I had this problem after several power outages and aborted restarts. I found this recovery method: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307545 Essentially, I just copied the SYSTEM file from the repair subdir to the CONFIG subdir and came up just fine. (Saved my ass, as I don't do system

Re: [CGUYS] (no-spam) Test

2008-08-14 Thread Fred Holmes
So what is the harm of a test message? It isn't trying to defraud the recipient. It takes no significant space on the hard drive. The delete key readily dispatches it. The eye readily skips over it. The word test is readily filtered for blocking if you really don't want to see such messages