Again, wording. Now the iphone is a full blown computer, skipping over
netbook and no mention of phone. It really doesn't matter what you call it,
it's what it is for whomever buys it. I use my touch to control two
computers via VNC, perhaps we are heading towards a place where these items
aren
> Netbooks existed several years before that site decided to "define" what they
> are--in 2009 yet. The ones I saw and tried ran Linux or Windows PE, and were
> about half the size of the so-called netbooks today.
Unfortunately anything running Windows PE isn't going to offer a good
computing ex
Netbooks existed several years before that site decided to "define" what
they are--in 2009 yet. The ones I saw and tried ran Linux or Windows PE,
and were about half the size of the so-called netbooks today.
I've only seen a few of these in the US, more overseas. Americans tend
to like "big" e
More pain. Two things in my new computer. Besides making the mistake of
installing Windows XP Home, now I notice two issues:
Drive C: has a partition and the boot part has about 20 giga. The other side is
named F: and has about 90. How to I make in without partition?... Just one
plain drive? (
I thought he was keying in on twisting their usage as has been done
with Spiro's name. :-)
Stewart
At 10:30 PM 4/29/2009, you wrote:
Spiro T. didn't attack the elite, but the effete; as in:
He once described a group of opponents as "an effete corps of
impudent snobs who characterize themsel
Spiro T. didn't attack the elite, but the effete; as in:
He once described a group of opponents as "an effete corps of impudent
snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals." (From the wiki on
Spiro).
Tom Piwowar wrote:
Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:56 AM, John Duncan Yoyo
wrote:
> Another thing to remember is that the power levels are expected to change
> after the switch over and the signals should get stronger.
I don not know if the output power levels are expected to change,
but moving from UHF to VHF should
>No telling where this will end up, but it is interesting that Apple is
>doing DMCA takedowns over discussions of how to use its products in an
>unapproved manner
That's the whole DMCA "forbidden speech" thing that I keep pointing out.
I wish it was not Apple who was playing the heavy, but that i
>Any reference to the iPad as being a netbook is by definition off topic. It
>doesn't have a keyboard. It's described as a "media pad". It's an iPod with
>HD video and a WiFi phone. It's clearly not intended for the same kinds of
>uses as a netbook.
This reminds me of the arguments made in the '70
> You are off topic.
Any reference to the iPad as being a netbook is by definition off topic. It
doesn't have a keyboard. It's described as a "media pad". It's an iPod with
HD video and a WiFi phone. It's clearly not intended for the same kinds of
uses as a netbook.
Furthermore, it's "smaller th
>No one has tried to redefine, confuse, and obfuscate except Tom, and now,
>apparently, you. iPhone and iTouch are fine, but they are emphatically not
>netbooks, and neither is the mythical iPad if it looks anything like it
>did in the illustration.
Chris is sure going to be pissed when the App
>Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly good
>things and twist their usage into something undesirable.
>What the heck is wrong with being elite? Wouldn't most people like to be
>elite at something? wouldn't you like to know elite people or use elite
>products?
You me
>You previously suggested that iPhone and iTouch were "netbooks". They have
>3.5" screens, do they not?
Bla, bla, bla. Read the subject line. Look up "will" in the dictionary.
You'll discover that it is future tense. Check on "previously" and you'll
find that it refers to the past. You are off t
> Certain elements of society like to take words
> that mean perfectly good things and twist their
> usage into something undesirable. What the heck
> is wrong with being elite? Wouldn't most people
> like to be elite at something? wouldn't you like
> to know elite people or use elite products
>Premiere dropped support for Macs for a couple years due to lack of demand,
>but it's currently available for both Mac and PC. My point was that it sucks
>that I can't try FCP without buying an entire computer dongle to run it.
>Apple's choice, not mine - yell at them.
Do I detect some envy here?
Chris Dunford wrote:
You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think
Mac users are elitist?
Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly good
things and twist their usage into something undesirable.
What the heck is wrong with being elite? Wouldn't
> >You write this condescending BS, but can't understand
> >why people think Mac users are elitist?
>
> I can understand why people think WFBs with their off-brand, low-speced
> PCs and belligerent attitudes are just trailer trash.
>
> Are we here to discuss computers or call each other names?
I would imagine that they are trying to make sure that "all are
informed", so there's no false start again as with the last deadline.
My relatives in Florida had to endure this for 2 months straight
before the first February changeover date and tired of it quickly.
Richard P.
> Expect to rescan f
Many thanks... but I don´t have an upgrade for XP home to Vista and I hate to
start all over again... But yes, will use firefox. It worked with both banks.
But still puzzled why I can´t install IE7.
Marcio
-Original Message-
>From: Tony B
>Sent: Apr 29, 2009 12:58 PM
>To: COMPUTERGUYS-
I am always scared of using RESTORE. Don´t ask me why...
Marcio
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>From: "Richard P."
>Sent: Apr 29, 2009 12:48 PM
>To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
>Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Can=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=B4t?= install IE7
>
>Can you go back to the original IE version using system r
> No. Manufacturers have redefined their too-big notebooks as "netbooks" to
> confuse consumers as to what real netbooks are. A real netbook is 5"-8", not
> a 10"-12" notebook. Those small non-netbook notebooks are not much more
> portable than any other notebook, just harder to type on. Redefin
> I'm not being condescending. I'm annoyed that instead of
> using an accurate description of a product, marketing depts.
> too often redefine names of existing products to confuse
> people, either because of laziness on their part or
> deliberate obfuscation. This is another example of
> that.
> >I can't conceive of doing what he does with a 3.5" screen and an
> >execrable, microscopic, touchscreen keyboard simulation.
>
> Even an illiterate WFB could have just looked at the
> pictures to see that the speculative Apple iPad did not have
> a 3.5" screen.
>
> Those LCDs that Apple has
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:48 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
> Last night, one of the local TV stations informed viewers by way of
> scrolling text across the screen that in June, after the digital
> transition, their current digital channel will change. Their advice
> was to rescan all channels
I don't understand: Are you in charge of deciding what a netbook is, or
isn't?
I bought a 12 inch "netbook" which weighs less than 3 lbs and has no optical
drive, and it goes in my bag and is with me everywhere. And it has most of
the apps that I need... open office, etc. And it does my "day
WordPerfect achieved 78% market saturation, but not because it was nearly
bug free;
it was because they chose to not implement copy protection. Business would
buy it,
and the employees would copy it and take it home. When the employee went to
a new
company, they would recommend it! The EULA
I've had problems with uninstalling IE7 before... ended up in a loop where
neither version worked correctly.
... try these hints:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927177
- Brian
- Original Message -
From: "Marcio"
Subject: [CGUYS] Can´t install IE7
Now what?
Again, many many t
What do you do with a netbook? It's too small for day to day
computing. So what do you do? Email? Web surfing? Find
restaurants? Directions? Tweet? Wall scribbles on Facebook?
You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people
think Mac users are elitist?
My son has one. He does n
>I can't conceive of doing what he does with a 3.5" screen and an
>execrable, microscopic, touchscreen keyboard simulation.
Even an illiterate WFB could have just looked at the pictures to see that
the speculative Apple iPad did not have a 3.5" screen.
Those LCDs that Apple has been stockpiling
>You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac
>users are elitist?
I can understand why people think WFBs with their off-brand, low-speced
PCs and belligerent attitudes are just trailer trash.
Are we here to discuss computers or call each other names?
>"As of the start of 2009, the established definition of a netbook was a
>notebook computer with a low-powered x86-compatible processor (compatible
>with PC standard software), small screen (no larger than 10 inches), small
>keyboard, equipped with wireless connectivity, lightweight (under three
>p
Manufacturers decided what a netbook was in the first place, they can call
it peanut butter toast for all we care. I have a friend who is 6'6" and
about 335 pounds...a 17" notebook is a netbook in his hands. It's what you
make it to be. It's what works for the person using it. Netbooks aren't
'
Ha! Clearly in your own mind, anyway. Tell me one thing you can do with FCP
that I can't do in virtually any other NLE - pick a random one for
comparison - maybe Grass Valley's Edius.
Premiere dropped support for Macs for a couple years due to lack of demand,
but it's currently available for both
Who cares?
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I too have seen and heard nothing but amazing things about training from
Apple.
But I think they might be able to continue their training service even
with the increased volume. I bet a lot of people don't make maximum use
of their available training time they pay for, and it gets people back
i
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Tom Piwowar wrote:
There are many, and only FCP requires a proprietary OS.
You forgot that there are some NLEs that also run on Windows. They are
not as good as the three choices provided by Apple, but they are there.
I have not looked at the NLEs available on Linux. What
There are few NLEs that come close to Final Cut Pro. Maybe Avid, but
it's even more confusing. Once you learn the basics of FCP, it has no
rivals for professional video editing. And, yes, I've used quite a few
apps/solutions over the past 15 years. No, I didn't have FCP training;
RTFM and pract
> >I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is.
>
> Oh yes, I forgot, it has to be crappy.
No, it has to have a keyboard and a screen that you don't need a magnifying
glass to see.
"As of the start of 2009, the established definition of a netbook was a
notebook computer with a
> What do you do with a netbook? It's too small for day to day computing.
> So what do you do? Email? Web surfing? Find restaurants? Directions?
> Tweet? Wall scribbles on Facebook?
You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac
users are elitist?
My son has one. He d
Go to the Airport Utility in the Utilities folder under the " GO "
menu. Be sure the " join open networks " option is checked. If it
already is then call the Apple genius, if not that should fix it.
On Apr 29, 2009, at 12:41 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system
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>http://tinyurl.com/c634vl
See what happens when people actually think things through.
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>What other types of questions?
Just check street name against the list of streets in the community.
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>One on One a wonderful thing but it seems to me they will not be able
>to afford to keep doing it once Apple's current sales boom subsides...
I was thinking they would not be able to afford to keep doing it as their
sales kept booming. Too many takers would swamp their capacity.
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>>Since the town may also have a website, it sounds like its
>>not unreasonable to have a web form on the site instead of
>>any other email way to get a hold of the government. You
>>can put a CAPATCHA or other bot-obstacles in front of the form.
> Spammers attack web forms too. They
One on One a wonderful thing but it seems to me they will not be able
to afford to keep doing it once Apple's current sales boom subsides...
?
db
Tom Piwowar wrote:
I've always known Apple was good for its customer support, but this just
blew me away. This may be specific to our store (the
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/163961/new_apple_gizmos_coming_exclusive
> ly_to_verizon.html
>
>
> Everybody is guessing.
I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is.
No. Manufacturers have redefined their too-big notebooks as "netbooks"
to confuse consumers as to what
>I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is.
Oh yes, I forgot, it has to be crappy.
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> There are many, and only FCP requires a proprietary OS.
You forgot that there are some NLEs that also run on Windows. They are
not as good as the three choices provided by Apple, but they are there.
I have not looked at the NLEs available on Linux. What do you suggest?
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> Why make it such a mystery? Just tell me the channel,
>okay? I am not so stupid as to be unable to program the new channel
>myself as opposed to having to rely on my TV or converter box to do it
>for me.
True. They have to file their plans with the FCC many months ahead so it
is no secret. Th
>I've always known Apple was good for its customer support, but this just
>blew me away. This may be specific to our store (the only one in
>Indianapolis-actually...
Nope. They offer this coast to coast.
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> I then tried three times to install IE 7 on the top of IE 6. It goes
> well, finishes, tells me to re-start and... when I check IE the version
> remains 6.0.2900.
>
> Now what?
Marcio, I don't know the answer to your question offhand, but I'm curious: when
you had IE8 installed and it
Can you go back to the original IE version using system restore and
the try to upgrade from there?
Richard P.
> Hi fellows
>
> Here I am in my new computer. By mistake I installed Internet XP Home
> (Brazilian Portuguese). It came with an IE I am not sure the edition. I then
> installed IE 8 bu
Since you asked, get Vista and Firefox and stop fooling around with
trying to get really old programs to work. It's unlikely your bank
"won't work with" your browser (link, please), but if they don't, get
a new bank. I've done it before, so I have no sympathy.
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Mar
Hi fellows
Here I am in my new computer. By mistake I installed Internet XP Home
(Brazilian Portuguese). It came with an IE I am not sure the edition. I then
installed IE 8 but my Brazilian bank would not work with it. I then unistalled
it. I ended up 1ith IE 6.0.2900.5512.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1
Generally when a Mac does not see a network it has joined before and
sees a new network, It will simply ask you if you want to join the new
network.
I suggest you call Apple and have them help you with your settings. If
someone has messed with the settings or if your router is acting funny,
it
Hey, these days, when I get super-cynical over crappy service offered by pretty
much everyone, talking with a knowledgeable, friendly rep is definitely
praiseworthy.
david
David Turk
Manager, Preservation Imaging Services
Indiana Historical Society
Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Ce
Walmart and Borders allows you to search the store's inventory online.
Richard P.
>
> It would be so helpful if you could search a specific store's inventory
> online, rather than having to go in person or call and take a chance that a)
> anyone will answer and b) if they do, they will give you
No question, Final Cut is one of the more difficult NLEs to learn.
Very steep learning curve. Probably rivaled only by Avid.
But let's not confuse your decision to go with a difficult app - one
that virtually demands training - to then praise the trainers needed
at whatever cost. You guys could ju
You may not be confused, but many will be. It's tough enough in a 60
second spot to try to tell them to re-scan channels. What would even
be the point of attempting to teach them how to re-program a single
channel manually?
Comcast just changed a couple channels in our lineup and I had to
rescan a
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Robert L Simon wrote:
> i spent a little time fiddlin' with my trusty ibm x31 to make a little
> space
> ...i decided to take off safari and chrome ...they aren't anything ...i
> found coupla old versions of jvm ...how come updater doesn't take off the
> old stuff
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Ranbo wrote:
> Yes, but what percentage of the time do you end up having to return
> electronic purchases made online? All this talk of reception problems,
> maybe a need for a special antenna, possibly roof antenna, etc. makes me
> think a return may be fairly
On Apr 29, 2009, at 8:14 AM, David Turk wrote:
This may be specific to our store (the only one in Indianapolis-
actually, the only Apple chain store in Indiana, although there are
independent Apple stores), but maybe others have good experiences
at their stores. Highly recommend it.
Nope,
I had my first session yesterday, & am amazed that Apple can offer this level
of training for only $99/year. Myself & several co-workers are learning Final
Cut (& trust me, you need thrusters on full when learning this program). We
can book sessions at once a week, over the internet. I've alw
Last night, one of the local TV stations informed viewers by way of
scrolling text across the screen that in June, after the digital
transition, their current digital channel will change. Their advice
was to rescan all channels in order to find their new one. If you had
any questions, their adv
My mom recently upgraded from Ibook to MacBook, Leopard OS. Everytime she
wants to use wi-fi , her new computer keeps trying to log on the old network
name. She is using a new network, so there is a conflict now. We tried to
go to the advance mode and delete the old network, but it keeps coming
> >This is a non-story.
>
> I was wondering how long it would take Chris to do a Dick Cheney on us.
Gotta love the selective copy & paste job, carefully crafted to omit the
entire context of my statement. Cheesy politicians are pretty good at that
sort of thing, too.
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