Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-06 Thread Eric S. Sande
Would this logic apply to voting? If someone can't read or doesn't know the 3 branches of federal government or what continent California is in or has an IQ of 60, should they be trusted with the installation of political leadership (voting)? No, at least not with my sister. She's a PhD.

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-04 Thread Chris Dunford
If what the page is telling me is indeed true/accurate, I guess I am a happy camper! It does until Conficker is upgraded to let those pages through. Another option for OpenDNS users: just go to your OpenDNS home page. It will tell you whether or not they have received any suspicious queries

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-04 Thread Tom Piwowar
Sister #1 gave me holy hell last year (or maybe the year before) and threw a fit when she couldn't get admin rights. To this day I still don't know what she wanted to install but I'm guessing it wasn't on my approved list. I agree. If somebody is not smart enough to crack the puny Windows

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-04 Thread Ranbo
Would this logic apply to voting? If someone can't read or doesn't know the 3 branches of federal government or what continent California is in or has an IQ of 60, should they be trusted with the installation of political leadership (voting)? Randall On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Tom Piwowar

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Sadly that is how many politicians are voted into office and stay there. Stewart At 12:47 PM 4/4/2009, you wrote: Would this logic apply to voting? If someone can't read or doesn't know the 3 branches of federal government or what continent California is in or has an IQ of 60, should they be

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-04 Thread Tom Piwowar
Would this logic apply to voting? If someone can't read or doesn't know the 3 branches of federal government or what continent California is in or has an IQ of 60, should they be trusted with the installation of political leadership (voting)? We elected a president who wouldn't pass your test so

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-04 Thread Steve at Verizon
Are you referring to Obama, who believes there are 57 states, not including Hawaii and Alaska? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrsBKGpwi58 Tom Piwowar wrote: Would this logic apply to voting? If someone can't read or doesn't know the 3 branches of federal government or what continent

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-04 Thread Ranbo
And why did we twice elect such a President (or why did he get almost 50% of the vote, if you assume that he didn't really win the first time)? :) Randall On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Would this logic apply to voting? If someone can't read or doesn't know

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-04 Thread Tom Piwowar
And why did we twice elect such a President (or why did he get almost 50% of the vote, if you assume that he didn't really win the first time)? :) OFF TOPIC -- HALT. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-03 Thread Jeff Wright
Won't hurt to go to grc.com and run a shields up scan either. Anything other than green on an all ports scan should be cause for concern. On top of that, you should use Secunia's Personal Software Inspector. Since many of the security problems today are also from 3rd party apps (I'm looking

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-03 Thread Ranbo
Are you calling us PC users April fools? Randall On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: well, no; just that it has the potential to wreck a lot of harm, like steal your personal info. from computer. Not really. If you cared about this kind of stuff you would not

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-03 Thread Tom Piwowar
http://www.confickerworkinggroup.org/infection_test/cfeyechart.html That is very clever. Conficker is known to block access to certain help sites and this is an easy way to see if you are being blocked. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-03 Thread Mike Sloane
If what the page is telling me is indeed true/accurate, I guess I am a happy camper! Mike Tom Piwowar wrote: http://www.confickerworkinggroup.org/infection_test/cfeyechart.html That is very clever. Conficker is known to block access to certain help sites and this is an easy way to see if

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-03 Thread Tom Piwowar
If what the page is telling me is indeed true/accurate, I guess I am a happy camper! It does until Conficker is upgraded to let those pages through. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-03 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Eric S. Sande esa...@erols.com wrote: I think that this is simple enough for the relatives. Won't hurt to go to grc.com and run a shields up scan either. Anything other than green on an all ports scan should be cause for concern. That is the full service

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-03 Thread Fred Holmes
Use of OpenDNS is also recommended as a Conficker preventive. http://www.opendns.com/ Nameservers are 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220. If you register/open an account [free] they analyze your traffic and will report traffic that gives evidence that you may be infected with Conficker. Fred

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-03 Thread Eric S. Sande
I try to run antivirus, adware, and a proactive run of spinrite if I have time when I visit my folks. Yeah, I'm admin on my Mom's machine. Which I built for her. I find that keeping the well-meaning relatives out of the loop is the challenge. Sister #1 gave me holy hell last year (or maybe

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-02 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: Blissfully ignorant. Nope, just not hysterical. The people running these botnets do not want to be noticed. Try to go to Sans.org, Microsoft.com, Symantec.com or run windows update- If they don't resolve then you have a

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-02 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: Blissfully ignorant. Nope, just not hysterical. The people running these botnets do not want to be noticed. Try to go to Sans.org,

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-02 Thread Jeff Wright
I just found a conficker test page- http://www.confickerworkinggroup.org/infection_test/cfeyechart.html I think that this is simple enough for the relatives. That's excellent. What a very simple methodology to show possible infection.

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-02 Thread Jeff Wright
The people running these botnets do not want to be noticed. But they are being noticed. Some very smart people in the industry are watching how it develops. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-02 Thread Eric S. Sande
I think that this is simple enough for the relatives. Won't hurt to go to grc.com and run a shields up scan either. Anything other than green on an all ports scan should be cause for concern. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-01 Thread Jeff Wright
Blissfully ignorant. Nope, just not hysterical. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

[CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-03-31 Thread Ranbo
Anyone see the 60 Minutes piece Sunday on the deadly computer virus sweeping the world? The story suggested that there is some reason to think it might be activated in millions of computers by its creator on April 1 to do harm or create mischief. Any thoughts about how serious this might be and

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-03-31 Thread Chris Dunford
Anyone see the 60 Minutes piece Sunday on the deadly computer virus sweeping the world? The story suggested that there is some reason to think it might be activated in millions of computers by its creator on April 1 to do harm or create mischief. Any thoughts about how serious this

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-03-31 Thread Tom Piwowar
Why do I think Tom or maybe others are going to say that if you have a Mac, there is nothing to worry about from this thing? :) Because it is true? This is the good old downadup with us again. * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-03-31 Thread mike
Actually it's not with you if you just update. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Why do I think Tom or maybe others are going to say that if you have a Mac, there is nothing to worry about from this thing? :) Because it is true? This is the good old

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-03-31 Thread Ranbo
well, no; just that it has the potential to wreck a lot of harm, like steal your personal info. from computer. Randall On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:23 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Deadly? They said that? On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone see the 60

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-03-31 Thread Ranbo
Thanks, Just saw something on local news, with advice like this. Even if computer is patched and updated couldn't this virus clog the internet by spamming lots of computers? This was suggested on the local news show as a potential problem. Randall On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Chris

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-03-31 Thread Tom Piwowar
well, no; just that it has the potential to wreck a lot of harm, like steal your personal info. from computer. Not really. If you cared about this kind of stuff you would not be using a PC. * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-03-31 Thread mike
well if apple made heavier laptops i would have bought one... On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: well, no; just that it has the potential to wreck a lot of harm, like steal your personal info. from computer. Not really. If you cared about this kind of stuff

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-03-31 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:30 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: well if apple made heavier laptops i would have bought one... Over 90% of the defendants who appear on the Judge Judy Show are Windows users! I'll be checking the stats for the Jerry Springer Show shortly. Steve

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-03-31 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
I heard speculation that the virus payload may be up for auction and all this publicity could drive up the prices. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-03-31 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: My prediction is that after all this hype, nothing significant will happen. Either that or millions of desktop screens will turn upside down. Perhaps nothing happening would be the worst sign at all. One big silent bot

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-03-31 Thread Eric S. Sande
Perhaps nothing happening would be the worst sign at all. One big silent bot net take over. Yeah, I'm running the scans anyway. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,