Re: [CGUYS] ATT VOIP decision...

2009-10-09 Thread mike
FUD has nothing to do with it. You simply think Google is lying and others think Apple is. Looking at who has a reason to lie, it's not hard to take google's side in this. Apple's only defense has been we didn't really deny google voice after we denied it. On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:54 PM,

Re: [CGUYS] ATT VOIP decision...

2009-10-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
On Oct 9, 2009, at 2:06 AM, mike wrote: FUD has nothing to do with it. You simply think Google is lying and others think Apple is. Looking at who has a reason to lie, it's not hard to take google's side in this. Apple's only defense has been we didn't really deny google voice after we

[CGUYS] ATT VOIP decision...

2009-10-08 Thread db
So what's the deal with ATT's decision to allow cellular VOIP? It's a great thing... should allow minimal cell minutes usage, cheap long distance and reverse the recent decision re: Google Voice on the iPhone. Anybody know the back story on why ATT did that? It seems counter-intuitive to

Re: [CGUYS] ATT VOIP decision...

2009-10-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I can only guess the FCC and their push for Net Neutrality even within the Cell phone area. Stewart At 02:33 PM 10/8/2009, you wrote: So what's the deal with ATT's decision to allow cellular VOIP? It's a great thing... should allow minimal cell minutes usage, cheap long distance and

Re: [CGUYS] ATT VOIP decision...

2009-10-08 Thread Fred Holmes
Any likelihood that it was consumer backlash? Fred Holmes At 03:33 PM 10/8/2009, db wrote: So what's the deal with ATT's decision to allow cellular VOIP? It's a great thing... should allow minimal cell minutes usage, cheap long distance and reverse the recent decision re: Google Voice on the

Re: [CGUYS] ATT VOIP decision...

2009-10-08 Thread db
Fred Holmes wrote: Any likelihood that it was consumer backlash? Fred Holmes Hah! When has that ever happened? Precious seldom me thinks. Corps have personage without liability. People have personage with liability... Normally, corps more or less do what they want and we take what

Re: [CGUYS] ATT VOIP decision...

2009-10-08 Thread mike
Several articles have read that it was under pressure from the FCC. Apple's lying about the google app doesn't help. On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Fred Holmes wrote: Any likelihood that it was consumer backlash? Fred Holmes Hah! When has that ever happened?

Re: [CGUYS] ATT VOIP decision...

2009-10-08 Thread b_s-wilk
Any likelihood that it was consumer backlash? More like world phone envy, or at least T-Mobile envy. T-Mobile has been selling WiFi phones for a year or so. They're popular, like the ones from HTC. Only problem, they were originally crippled so that they only worked with T-M WiFi. WiFi