Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-05-03 Thread Tom Piwowar
Again, wording. Now the iphone is a full blown computer, skipping over netbook and no mention of phone. It really doesn't matter what you call it, it's what it is for whomever buys it. You can see the changes occuring by looking at survey statistics. The April stats from Net Applications show

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-30 Thread mike
Again, wording. Now the iphone is a full blown computer, skipping over netbook and no mention of phone. It really doesn't matter what you call it, it's what it is for whomever buys it. I use my touch to control two computers via VNC, perhaps we are heading towards a place where these items

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-30 Thread b_s-wilk
Netbooks existed several years before that site decided to define what they are--in 2009 yet. The ones I saw and tried ran Linux or Windows PE, and were about half the size of the so-called netbooks today. Unfortunately anything running Windows PE isn't going to offer a good computing

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is. Oh yes, I forgot, it has to be crappy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread b_s-wilk
http://www.pcworld.com/article/163961/new_apple_gizmos_coming_exclusive ly_to_verizon.html Everybody is guessing. I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is. No. Manufacturers have redefined their too-big notebooks as netbooks to confuse consumers as to what real

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
What do you do with a netbook? It's too small for day to day computing. So what do you do? Email? Web surfing? Find restaurants? Directions? Tweet? Wall scribbles on Facebook? You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? My son has one. He

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is. Oh yes, I forgot, it has to be crappy. No, it has to have a keyboard and a screen that you don't need a magnifying glass to see. As of the start of 2009, the established definition of a netbook was a notebook computer with a

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Following on the heels of yesterday's rumors of an Apple deal for a Verizon iPad, MS says me too. The Zune Phone commeth... http://www.pcworld.com/article/164022/microsoft_responds_to_verizon_pink_ru mor.html * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread mike
Manufacturers decided what a netbook was in the first place, they can call it peanut butter toast for all we care. I have a friend who is 6'6 and about 335 pounds...a 17 notebook is a netbook in his hands. It's what you make it to be. It's what works for the person using it. Netbooks aren't

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
As of the start of 2009, the established definition of a netbook was a notebook computer with a low-powered x86-compatible processor (compatible with PC standard software), small screen (no larger than 10 inches), small keyboard, equipped with wireless connectivity, lightweight (under three

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? I can understand why people think WFBs with their off-brand, low-speced PCs and belligerent attitudes are just trailer trash. Are we here to discuss computers or call each other names?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
I can't conceive of doing what he does with a 3.5 screen and an execrable, microscopic, touchscreen keyboard simulation. Even an illiterate WFB could have just looked at the pictures to see that the speculative Apple iPad did not have a 3.5 screen. Those LCDs that Apple has been stockpiling

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread b_s-wilk
What do you do with a netbook? It's too small for day to day computing. So what do you do? Email? Web surfing? Find restaurants? Directions? Tweet? Wall scribbles on Facebook? You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? My son has one. He does

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Ellen Rains Harris
, April 29, 2009 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right What do you do with a netbook? It's too small for day to day computing. So what do you do? Email? Web surfing? Find restaurants? Directions? Tweet? Wall scribbles on Facebook? You write this condescending BS

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
I'm not being condescending. I'm annoyed that instead of using an accurate description of a product, marketing depts. too often redefine names of existing products to confuse people, either because of laziness on their part or deliberate obfuscation. This is another example of that.

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Art Clemons
No. Manufacturers have redefined their too-big notebooks as netbooks to confuse consumers as to what real netbooks are. A real netbook is 5-8, not a 10-12 notebook. Those small non-netbook notebooks are not much more portable than any other notebook, just harder to type on. Redefined cheap

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
I can't conceive of doing what he does with a 3.5 screen and an execrable, microscopic, touchscreen keyboard simulation. Even an illiterate WFB could have just looked at the pictures to see that the speculative Apple iPad did not have a 3.5 screen. Those LCDs that Apple has been

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? I can understand why people think WFBs with their off-brand, low-speced PCs and belligerent attitudes are just trailer trash. Are we here to discuss computers or call each other names? I didn't

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Jordan
Chris Dunford wrote: You write this condescending BS, but can't understand why people think Mac users are elitist? Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly good things and twist their usage into something undesirable. What the heck is wrong with being elite?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly good things and twist their usage into something undesirable. What the heck is wrong with being elite? Wouldn't most people like to be elite at something? wouldn't you like to know elite people or use elite products?

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
You previously suggested that iPhone and iTouch were netbooks. They have 3.5 screens, do they not? Bla, bla, bla. Read the subject line. Look up will in the dictionary. You'll discover that it is future tense. Check on previously and you'll find that it refers to the past. You are off topic.

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly good things and twist their usage into something undesirable. What the heck is wrong with being elite? Wouldn't most people like to be elite at something? wouldn't you like to know elite people or use elite products? You mean

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
No one has tried to redefine, confuse, and obfuscate except Tom, and now, apparently, you. iPhone and iTouch are fine, but they are emphatically not netbooks, and neither is the mythical iPad if it looks anything like it did in the illustration. Chris is sure going to be pissed when the Apple

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Dunford
You are off topic. Any reference to the iPad as being a netbook is by definition off topic. It doesn't have a keyboard. It's described as a media pad. It's an iPod with HD video and a WiFi phone. It's clearly not intended for the same kinds of uses as a netbook. Furthermore, it's smaller than

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Any reference to the iPad as being a netbook is by definition off topic. It doesn't have a keyboard. It's described as a media pad. It's an iPod with HD video and a WiFi phone. It's clearly not intended for the same kinds of uses as a netbook. This reminds me of the arguments made in the '70s

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Steve at Verizon
Spiro T. didn't attack the elite, but the effete; as in: He once described a group of opponents as an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals. (From the wiki on Spiro). Tom Piwowar wrote: Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I thought he was keying in on twisting their usage as has been done with Spiro's name. :-) Stewart At 10:30 PM 4/29/2009, you wrote: Spiro T. didn't attack the elite, but the effete; as in: He once described a group of opponents as an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize

[CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-28 Thread Tom Piwowar
http://www.pcworld.com/article/163961/new_apple_gizmos_coming_exclusively_t o_verizon.html Everybody is guessing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member

Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right

2009-04-28 Thread Chris Dunford
http://www.pcworld.com/article/163961/new_apple_gizmos_coming_exclusive ly_to_verizon.html Everybody is guessing. I see that you continue to be confused about what a netbook is. * ** List info, subscription