Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-18 Thread Steve Rigby
On Apr 18, 2008, at 4:38 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: Since the insides of an Apple machine are mostly COTS stuff anyway, and run Windows really, really well in most press reports, it would seem logical that Dell or some other player would wrap a case around those parts and let it loose in the

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-18 Thread mike
It's called EFI. It's the new interface between the OS and hardware. It's supported in one way or another by most OS vendors. Reading about it I'm not sure it's a step ahead as much as a sidestep. Seems like one more thing that can get corrupted since it sits on the HD. OS X will run on legacy

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
More than that I think it is something similar to the way the original IBM checked the BIOS (Apple calls it something different) that does not allow Leopard to run on a Dell. Dell does have higher end machines. They bought Alienware a couple of years ago. Stewart At 03:38 PM 4/18/2008, you

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-18 Thread Matthew Taylor
Since the insides of an Apple machine are mostly COTS stuff anyway, and run Windows really, really well in most press reports, it would seem logical that Dell or some other player would wrap a case around those parts and let it loose in the world. I suppose the problem is that because Appl

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-18 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
I'm hoping somebody like Dell just happens to put out a Leopard friendly machine. Let the hobbyists talk it up for it's Mac friendly ways and see if it improves sales. On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Steve Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 16, 2008, at 10:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-17 Thread Steve Rigby
On Apr 16, 2008, at 10:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hoax http://gizmodo.com/380488/psystar-exposed-looks-like-a-hoax Since it is indeed quite possible to cause a Windows machine to be able to run OS X, and a fair number of folks have done it with success, why would it not be probabl

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
My dad's IE department had been running Trash 80's model III's for a few years and were expressly forbidden from playing games on them. If a game were caught it would mean the end of Computers for his IE department. (Not his rule, but his Boss's rule) When they got their first IBM clones, (A

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Somebody will eventually try to order one and let the world know. It >isn't all that difficult to get the right pile of parts. Do any of the other geezerz on the list remember the early days of PCs? IBM was fighting off the clones by using a proprietary BIOS. Anyone who could make a legit BIOS

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-17 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Somebody will eventually try to order one and let the world know. It isn't all that difficult to get the right pile of parts. I expect Macs may start coming with a chip built in that identifies the hardware as legit. On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:14 AM, John Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, b

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-17 Thread John Settle
Ah, but can you actually buy one? If you order one will it actually be delivered? John Duncan Yoyo wrote: I don't think so. It is just a company so small as to not have an actual physical location. You can get to the configurations on the web page again. On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:23 PM, <[

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-17 Thread John Settle
No prob.! Thanks for the corrections. Both Gorilla's and Guerrilla's indulge in nit picking when required. John DeCarlo wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:12 AM, John J Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Possibly a gorilla marketing tactic. I am a day behind on the Tech 5 Webcast schedule. H

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
I don't think so. It is just a company so small as to not have an actual physical location. You can get to the configurations on the web page again. On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:23 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hoax > > > http://gizmodo.com/380488/psystar-exposed-looks-like-a-hoax > > > > >

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread maruca
hoax http://gizmodo.com/380488/psystar-exposed-looks-like-a-hoax * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Or maybe even a guerilla marketing tactic. gorilla n. 2. Slang. a. A brutish man. b. A thug. Recent reports suggest that I was right. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread Steve Rigby
On Apr 16, 2008, at 8:27 AM, John J Settle wrote: I hear from John C. Dvorak's (www.dvorak.org/blog) Tech 5 report that the OpenMac has disappeared from the vendor's site. Can't imagine why. Not at all. The computer is still listed and described and for sale just as it was previously.

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
All depends on wether or not they want to be a primate. Stewart At 07:00 PM 4/16/2008, you wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:12 AM, John J Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Possibly a gorilla marketing tactic. I am a day behind on the Tech 5 > Webcast schedule. He publishes them on Pacific

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread John DeCarlo
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:12 AM, John J Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Possibly a gorilla marketing tactic. I am a day behind on the Tech 5 > Webcast schedule. He publishes them on Pacific time and I listen on Eastern. Or maybe even a guerilla marketing tactic. Sorry, a minor nit, but I h

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread mike
I could dig out the details, but the sound was onboard, intel board. I haven't used a sound card in years for any system i've built...onboard sound is pretty good. Mike On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:01 PM, John J Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anad a darn fine NAS it probably is too. Were you

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread John J Settle
Anad a darn fine NAS it probably is too. Were you using the sound device that came onboard the motherboard or a soundcard? mike wrote: We did, and now it's a NAS. Mike On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:04 AM, John J Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rev. Marshall , I think Mike built a H

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread mike
We did, and now it's a NAS. Mike On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:04 AM, John J Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rev. Marshall , >I think Mike built a Hackintosh. > JJS > > > Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: > > > Many sound devices require you to run their software installer to > > install the

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread John J Settle
Rev. Marshall , I think Mike built a Hackintosh. JJS Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Many sound devices require you to run their software installer to install them not use Windows add. Also check devices and see if there are any devices showing not installed properly (Yellow Exclamation

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Many sound devices require you to run their software installer to install them not use Windows add. Also check devices and see if there are any devices showing not installed properly (Yellow Exclamation marks) Remove these and it might ask to reinstall. Stewart At 11:58 AM 4/16/2008, you

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread mike
A friend and I did that a few months ago, the thing worked perfect except for the sound wouldn't work. Mike On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:01 AM, John Duncan Yoyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I looked last night they had a cheap one- around $400 and an > expensive one that was listed at nearly a

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread John J Settle
I have an excellent book at home that has that as a build your own project. I'll see if I can send you title and author. Guided me through building (or assembling) by own Core Duo Pentium Windows PC. It actually works! John Duncan Yoyo wrote: When I looked last night they had a cheap one- arou

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
When I looked last night they had a cheap one- around $400 and an expensive one that was listed at nearly a $1000. Right now I can't get to the descriptions because they can't process credit cards according to the site. I wonder if Apple went after their credit card processor or the bank.

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread John J Settle
Possibly a gorilla marketing tactic. I am a day behind on the Tech 5 Webcast schedule. He publishes them on Pacific time and I listen on Eastern. Tom Piwowar wrote: I hear from John C. Dvorak's (www.dvorak.org/blog) Tech 5 report that the OpenMac has disappeared from the vendor's site. Can't im

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread Tom Piwowar
>I hear from John C. Dvorak's (www.dvorak.org/blog) Tech 5 report that >the OpenMac has disappeared from the vendor's site. Can't imagine why. It is there this morning. Maybe they took down the site for a while to increase the buzz. *

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread John J Settle
Ah, how fast things change! On the April 15th edition of Tech 5, (www.dvorak.org/blog) reports the Mac clone is still on, now call Open PC. Priced around $810.00 and licensing issues abound! Apple's lawyer probably has his running shoes on now. :>) Snyder, Mark (IT Civilian) wrote: The blog i

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread Snyder, Mark (IT Civilian)
The blog is not up to date Psystar said yesterday that they intend to challenge Apple's licensing terms for Mac OS X in court. This should make the new lawyer they grabbed from HP get off to a running start! Thank you, Mark Snyder I hear from John C. Dvorak's (www.dvorak.org/blog) Tech 5 rep

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

2008-04-16 Thread John J Settle
I hear from John C. Dvorak's (www.dvorak.org/blog) Tech 5 report that the OpenMac has disappeared from the vendor's site. Can't imagine why. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** po