Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread Eric S. Sande
But, I did buy used CDs and ripped them to MP3 for use on my MP3 >players. Ah, you need to lose MP3, it sucks. But you knew I was going to say this. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
The MPAA almost stopped the VHS machine from being able to record and it is also the one who tried to stop DVD recorders from being a reality. Notice the warning on the beginning of a movie. It is only for personal or home use. I have to get a license to show a movie to a group at church!!!

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I am not advocating anything. I run up against the same restrictions if not more. If I publish my printed service I better have all the correct copyrights, even to the hymnal I got the service out of to put it up on the web. That can be as many as 10 different copyright holders. Therefore I

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: > Copying music from a buddy, who purchased the music, for personal use > shouldn't be illegal.  Nor should making a copy of music or movies that you > legally own. The Motion Picture Association of America says that you do not have the right

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread Jeff Wright
IP is out of control Rev. It's time we take it back. I never bought any crippled music during the 7-odd years the RIAA tried to cram DRM down our throats. Not so ironically, music piracy brought them to their senses and they finally backed off of the DRM demand. But, I did buy used CDs and ripp

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It does not matter what we want, but what has been passed into law and what the law is. That is not the way they define it, and unless you want to appear before the court and pay judgments such as the recently rendered one. I would not assume any of that. Stewart At 09:40 PM 6/21/2009, yo

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread Jeff Wright
> This is only a bad thing if you happen to own stock in or own one > of > these record labels. It's good for everybody else. Can you imagine > owning a Ford car and when you sold it or traded it in having to send > a portion of the sale or trade in value back to Ford? I understand how > copy

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread Jeff Miles
Insert "illegal" after keeping the original for yourself, below. Jeff M On Jun 21, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: "According to some..." But is it the law? Like I said, I can understand making numerous, or even one copy and selling that, while keeping the original for yoursel

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread Jeff Miles
"According to some..." But is it the law? Like I said, I can understand making numerous, or even one copy and selling that, while keeping the original for yourself. Making a copy and then selling the original is walking a very thin line. But just selling the original? I think that would be

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread Jeff Miles
I guess that would fall under illegal copying, but not quite sure. Aren't we allowed to make a copy for ourselves of something we own, as long as we don't sell that copy? But selling the original shouldn't be a problem. The thing I'm confused about is how is a person supposed to know if a

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
According to some copyright people that is not the case. You only buy the rights to listen to it, you do not buy the physical ownership of that piece of music. Same goes with software. Some artists are pushing to get paid for each time their music is played on the radio. Stewart At 06:59

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread mike
True, but how often have people been ripping mp3's off their cds and then selling them to used stores? On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: >This is only a bad thing if you happen to own stock in or own one of > these record labels. It's good for everybody else. Can you i

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread Jeff Miles
This is only a bad thing if you happen to own stock in or own one of these record labels. It's good for everybody else. Can you imagine owning a Ford car and when you sold it or traded it in having to send a portion of the sale or trade in value back to Ford? I understand how copying is il

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread mike
I remember Garth Brooks? was trying to get royalties from used sales of his albums. On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: > From what I understand of the Amazon TOS, this is kosher. > > But, since the recording labels get screwed out their cut on the 2nd, 3rd > and 17th rounds, thi

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread Jeff Wright
>From what I understand of the Amazon TOS, this is kosher. But, since the recording labels get screwed out their cut on the 2nd, 3rd and 17th rounds, this is a bad thing. > -Original Message- ://www.houstonpress.com/2009-06-18/music/byte-this/ > > Interesting article about web sites crop

Re: [CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:26 PM, mike wrote: > http://www.houstonpress.com/2009-06-18/music/byte-this/ > > Interesting article about web sites cropping up selling 'used' mp3's you > maybe want to be rid of. Wait until the RIAA gets wind of this! Steve **

[CGUYS] selling used mp3's

2009-06-21 Thread mike
http://www.houstonpress.com/2009-06-18/music/byte-this/ Interesting article about web sites cropping up selling 'used' mp3's you maybe want to be rid of. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privac