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1.1. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
From: Jörg Rhiemeier
1.2. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
From: Larry Sulky
1.3. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
From: Gary Shannon
1.4. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
From: Jörg Rhiemeier
1.5. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
From: Larry Sulky
1.6. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
From: Anthony Miles
1.7. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
From: Gary Shannon
2a. Re: How did English <u> get /U/ and /V/?
From: David McCann
3a. Re: Need help with phonetics/phonology at CALS
From: David McCann
4a. Re: Cheyoon (Mermish) Orthography
From: Anthony Miles
5a. Re: Na'vi Babel Text
From: Samuel Stutter
6a. Teaching kids Klingon (humor)
From: Sai Emrys
6b. Re: Teaching kids Klingon (humor)
From: Adam Walker
6c. Re: Teaching kids Klingon (humor)
From: Richard Littauer
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1.1. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
Posted by: "Jörg Rhiemeier" joerg_rhieme...@web.de
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:02 am ((PDT))
Hallo!
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:49:18 -0700, Gary Shannon wrote:
> Words are made up of any number of CV syllables where C is a glottal
> stop, a single consonant, or any one of a number of permitted
> consonant clusters (as yet unspecified). The first syllable may have a
> null consonant, i.e. V only.
>
> The first vowel of a word is any vowel other than 'a'. All of the
> remaining vowels of the word are the vowel 'a'. For example:
>
> diva, ropa, upasana, purampada, toskala, osa'atanda ...
>
> The accent falls on the non-a syllable.
A (naturalistic!) conlang I am collecting ideas for does something
similar. The first syllable has one of the vowels /a e i o u/;
all other syllables of the word have /@/ (most words do not have
more than two syllables). The first syllable is stressed. Also,
the language is isolating, except for compounds (in which the
non-schwa vowels of the nonfirst members are retained).
> [...]
>
> I can't imagine a simpler system than that.
How about what I use in X-3? All morphemes are exactly one phoneme
long. Of course, the language is oligosynthetic and has a huge lot
of phonemes. In "non-strict" X-3, there is an escape mechanism
that allows for the borrowing of arbitrary lexical material (e.g.,
proper names) by enclosing it in two glottal stops, which may not
occur within the borrowed material, and do not occur elsewhere in
the language.
--
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http://www.joerg-rhiemeier.de/Conlang/index.html
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1.2. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
Posted by: "Larry Sulky" larrysu...@gmail.com
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:10 am ((PDT))
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhieme...@web.de>wrote:
> Hallo!
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:49:18 -0700, Gary Shannon wrote:
>
> Words are made up of any number of CV syllables where C is a glottal
>> stop, a single consonant, or any one of a number of permitted
>> consonant clusters (as yet unspecified). The first syllable may have a
>> null consonant, i.e. V only.
>>
>> The first vowel of a word is any vowel other than 'a'. All of the
>> remaining vowels of the word are the vowel 'a'. For example:
>>
>> diva, ropa, upasana, purampada, toskala, osa'atanda ...
>>
>> The accent falls on the non-a syllable.
>>
>
> A (naturalistic!) conlang I am collecting ideas for does something
> similar. The first syllable has one of the vowels /a e i o u/;
> all other syllables of the word have /@/ (most words do not have
> more than two syllables). The first syllable is stressed. Also,
> the language is isolating, except for compounds (in which the
> non-schwa vowels of the nonfirst members are retained).
>
>
This is pretty similar also to Konya. But I was leery of having both /a/ and
/@/, since Konya doesn't have stress to help keep them separate. I came up
with the idea when I noted that German and related languages tend to reduce
non-stressed syllables, which are usually non-initial syllables. So my
initial thought was that Konya would end up sounding Germanic. LOL!!!
--larry
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1.3. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
Posted by: "Gary Shannon" fizi...@gmail.com
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:24 am ((PDT))
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 8:40 AM, And Rosta <and.ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For me, I'd want a self-segregation algorithm that maximizes utterance
> brevity. So, here's a question I invite you to consider (because I'd like to
> know the answer...):
>
> 1. Assume, for the purposes of experiment, that the frequency curve for
> English words (i.e. frequency on one axis and on the other axis the number
> of words with the given frequency) is universal for all language. (Ignore
> derivational morphology and homonymy.)
> 2. Assume that the minimal phonological unit is the syllable, and that a
> self-segregation algorithm classifies them as word-initial/noninitial or
> word-final/nonfinal.
> 3. If the engelanger's goal is then to achieve maximal brevity of utterance,
> then what word-length curve (number of syllables per word, against number of
> lexemesa of that length) gives the shortest utterances? (E.g imagine you had
> to recode English text, word-by-word, into the new phonology.) (Assume
> self-segregation and no homonyms.)
> 4. The answer for (3) will vary according to the number of syllable types.
> But is it possible to state a rule (of thumb) that generalizes over
> different numbers of syllables types, such as "generally, n% of syllable
> types should mark word-finality"?
>
> I hope the question makes sense and is of interest...
>
> --And.
Huffman coding achieves self-segregation by using "prefix free"
coding, which is just another way of saying that certain sequences of
characters are classified as prefixes only (i.e., word-initial) and
imply that more is to follow. In fact, they are classified by exactly
how many more characters are to follow, so that if, for example, "ka"
might be classified as "word initial for 3-syllable words" and "tu"
might be classified as a monosyllable. Then "karomatu" must be "karoma
+ tu". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huffman_coding)
The only way a sequence of characters is known to be word-final is
that the following sequence is a word-initial sequence. (I use the
word "sequence" rather than "syllable" because in Huffman coding the
sequence of symbols can be binary bits or arbitrary characters of any
kind, and don't need to be pronounceable.) See my compressing relex of
English http://fiziwig.com/crypto/huffcode.html The average word using
my relex is only 2.4 letters long. The website includes a downloadable
10,000-word dictionary, and since all the words are generated by a
Huffman type algorithm all compound words will be self-segregating.
--gary
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1.4. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
Posted by: "Jörg Rhiemeier" joerg_rhieme...@web.de
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:33 am ((PDT))
Hallo!
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:08:21 -0400, Larry Sulky wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Jörg
> Rhiemeier<joerg_rhieme...@web.de>wrote:
>
> > Hallo!
> > [...]
> > A (naturalistic!) conlang I am collecting ideas for does something
> > similar. The first syllable has one of the vowels /a e i o u/;
> > all other syllables of the word have /@/ (most words do not have
> > more than two syllables). The first syllable is stressed. Also,
> > the language is isolating, except for compounds (in which the
> > non-schwa vowels of the nonfirst members are retained).
> >
> >
> This is pretty similar also to Konya.
Is there a grammar sketch available anywhere? Your web pages give only
the alphabet and some sample sentences. At least, I could not make out
any self-segregation pattern from your material.
> But I was leery of having both /a/ and
> /@/, since Konya doesn't have stress to help keep them separate. I came up
> with the idea when I noted that German and related languages tend to reduce
> non-stressed syllables, which are usually non-initial syllables. So my
> initial thought was that Konya would end up sounding Germanic. LOL!!!
The motivation for the system in Arne (that's the name of that conlang)
was not at all self-segregation. The language is a distant relative of
Old Albic, and the common ancestor of both was a richly inflected
agglutinating language (as Old Albic still is). In the branch of the
family Arne belongs to, the inflections were, through the effects of
various sound changes, eroded to the point that the different forms of
a word differed merely in the final vowels. Now all I had to do to
get an isolating language was to have the vowels of unstressed syllables
be reduced to schwa, which is a change known from German and some other
Germanic languages, and the endings were no more.
--
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http://www.joerg-rhiemeier.de/Conlang/index.html
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1.5. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
Posted by: "Larry Sulky" larrysu...@gmail.com
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:25 pm ((PDT))
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhieme...@web.de>wrote:
> Hallo!
>
>
> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:08:21 -0400, Larry Sulky wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Jörg Rhiemeier<joerg_rhieme...@web.de
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Hallo!
>> > [...]
>>
>> > A (naturalistic!) conlang I am collecting ideas for does something
>> > similar. The first syllable has one of the vowels /a e i o u/;
>> > all other syllables of the word have /@/ (most words do not have
>> > more than two syllables). The first syllable is stressed. Also,
>> > the language is isolating, except for compounds (in which the
>> > non-schwa vowels of the nonfirst members are retained).
>> >
>> >
>> This is pretty similar also to Konya.
>>
>
> Is there a grammar sketch available anywhere? Your web pages give only
> the alphabet and some sample sentences. At least, I could not make out
> any self-segregation pattern from your material.
>
>
Because I always imagined I was talking to interested non-linguists, I
didn't include technical details of how the SSM works. I downplayed it in
the materials.
Basically it's like what Gary described -- the first vowel is not /a/, and
all the rest (if any) are. However, I used a somewhat different scheme for
functionals than for lexicals, and in hindsight I would have done better to
have just said "monosyllabic words are functionals; the rest are lexicals".
Konya has been dormant for several years, so I would have to go back and
reacquaint myself to be able to explain better. The Q&A page might have
something worthwhile for you: http://larrysulky.webs.com/konya/konya-qa.html
.
My current project is Qakwan, and it uses a simple SSM scheme that lets me
adapt words from other languages without big changes. Its primary source
languages according to its con-history are proto-Samoan, Luso-Hispanic, and
English. http://larrysulky.webs.com/qakwan/qakwan-main.htm
> But I was leery of having both /a/ and
>> /@/, since Konya doesn't have stress to help keep them separate. I came
>> up
>> with the idea when I noted that German and related languages tend to
>> reduce
>> non-stressed syllables, which are usually non-initial syllables. So my
>> initial thought was that Konya would end up sounding Germanic. LOL!!!
>>
>
> The motivation for the system in Arne (that's the name of that conlang)
> was not at all self-segregation. The language is a distant relative of
> Old Albic, and the common ancestor of both was a richly inflected
> agglutinating language (as Old Albic still is). In the branch of the
> family Arne belongs to, the inflections were, through the effects of
> various sound changes, eroded to the point that the different forms of
> a word differed merely in the final vowels. Now all I had to do to
> get an isolating language was to have the vowels of unstressed syllables
> be reduced to schwa, which is a change known from German and some other
> Germanic languages, and the endings were no more.
>
>
Interesting! Where can I see Arne?
---larry
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1.6. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
Posted by: "Anthony Miles" mamercu...@gmail.com
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:42 pm ((PDT))
I sacrificed sleep last night because I wanted to finish reading about Konya. I
couldn't immediately identify a self-segregating feature either. I may not
understand it completely, but I do like it. I'm going to read Ilomi this
weekend.
That does have some poetry! Qakwan will have to wait.
-o weka e nimi namako!
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1.7. Re: Possibly the simplest possible self-segregating morphology
Posted by: "Gary Shannon" fizi...@gmail.com
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:10 pm ((PDT))
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Anthony Miles <mamercu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I sacrificed sleep last night because I wanted to finish reading about Konya.
> I
> couldn't immediately identify a self-segregating feature either. I may not
> understand it completely, but I do like it. I'm going to read Ilomi this
> weekend.
> That does have some poetry! Qakwan will have to wait.
> -o weka e nimi namako!
Here are some traditional style ilomi lessons
http://fiziwig.com/conlang/elomi/bp1.html
And here are some lessons for learning ilomi through pictures and
audio recordings: http://fiziwig.com/conlang/elomi/imupix01.html (Note
that at the time these were created the language name was spelled
"elomi", rather than ilomi", but it's the same language.
--gary
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2a. Re: How did English <u> get /U/ and /V/?
Posted by: "David McCann" da...@polymathy.plus.com
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:29 am ((PDT))
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 18:06 -0400, Alex Fink wrote:
> I don't see a sensible way to draw a bright line between
> Neogrammarianly-acceptable changes and ones that aren't, anyway; there's a
> sorites problem. Changes with a single exception ought to be allowed, okay;
> how about two? three? ... a change with an exception for the phonological
> shape of every word in which, in reality, it sporadically failed to happen
> for whatever chance reason?
>
> In any event, the [U]-retention rule as I have it in my head is that [U] is
> retained when following a labial *and preceding [l] or a postalveolar*, or
> in any situation following [w] (which is rare, there was a historical *wu
> constraint at some point). That's better: "mush" is in, there's not some
> exception about /m/; others are out. But it's still not exceptionless, e.g.
> "much" (which has other irregularities: the stressed vowel ought to've been
> [I] by regular development; and why no <t> in the spelling?).
The "much" question *is* a matter of dialect mixture; different parts of
southern England saw /ü/ > /u/, /i/, or even /e/.
The point I was trying to make about the neogrammarians is that at least
some confused two types of change. If a change is unconditional, then it
necessarily will be universal. If /ü/ > /i/ or whatever, then /ü/ is
lost and forgotten. But if the change is "X > Y under condition C", then
the fact that some instances of X remain in the language enables some
people to ignore the change in some words where you would expect them to
apply it, and there is ample evidence that they do. The historical
linguists (but not dialectologists) generally ignored this by pulling
the rabbit of "dialect mixture" out of their hats. So convenient to
explain Latin "lingua" instead of "*dingua" as a loan, even when there's
not a shred of evidence of a language it could be a loan from.
An interesting case in my English is the lengthening of /æ/. There are
clearly two phonemes, with minimal pairs like "band" /bæËnd/ and
"banned" /bænd/, "bad" /bæËd/ and "bade" /bæd/. But I cannot find any
rule to predict where the change occured. It cannot occur before a tense
consonant, yet is not obligatory before a lax one: "lad", "cad" have the
short vowel. And it cannot, I think, occur in a verb! There must have
been many such oddities in the history of languages, which is why I get
a bit exasperated by those who seem obsessive about regular sound
changes.
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3a. Re: Need help with phonetics/phonology at CALS
Posted by: "David McCann" da...@polymathy.plus.com
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:34 am ((PDT))
On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 08:55 -0500, Daniel Nielsen wrote:
> Hi, David, have you considered attaching that disclaimer (without the last
> paragraph, of course) as a section within the Wikipedia IPA article, perhaps
> with a citation or two?
No, because
1. I could spend hour after hour correcting Wikipedia.
2. I dislike the founder â his smugness and support for scientism â so I
won't help his project. You're never to old to be childish :-)
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4a. Re: Cheyoon (Mermish) Orthography
Posted by: "Anthony Miles" mamercu...@gmail.com
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:36 am ((PDT))
Thanks, for the comments, John. This is the new orthography:
http://wiki.frath.net/Cheyoon
I'll adjust the root-letters of the name once the orthography stabilizes!
I suspect /d z n/ and /t s N/ would be used as a semi-correct (loanword?)
pronunciation. Or do you think I should adopt them as an orthographic
convenience? If the system stabilizes as labial-palatal-uvular, perhaps
the "human" pronunciation will shift it to labial-dentialveolar-velar. I don't
know enough about the local humans to be sure.
I know you don't like the capital letters, but I picked up that habit from
Washo, and it does effectively remind one that these are voiceless nasals.
The capitalization also frees up /h/ as an orthographic indicator of voiceless
vowels, which was a fault of the previous two orthographies.
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5a. Re: Na'vi Babel Text
Posted by: "Samuel Stutter" sam.stut...@student.manchester.ac.uk
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:16 pm ((PDT))
In order to maintain the thread, and because (thank you Richard) this
has just reminded me to get off my backside and do it for Nauspayr,
here's my translation (if anyone is interested, especially since this
post is tediously LONG).
ISSUES:
As the people of my conculture become steadily more witchy, in order
to make the Genesis quote more culturally acceptable it had to rhyme
(they wouldnât take religious prose seriously). I must confess, where
I had to coin new words I did have the opportunity to cheat somewhat:
this was, however, chiefly in the verb-conjugation area though (Iâm
afraid the *âB-Class Irregularâ 3rd person singular âL-Nounâ
renarrative remote past* conjugation was designed solely to rhyme with
the adjectival conversion suffix). Because I had to swap words around
a little in order to fit the meter and rhyme scheme this certainly
isnât an accurate translation, especially since Iâve added lines
and âthe Ancestorsâ are considered singular. Also, unexpectedly, in
translation God sounds really mean.
Fortunately, most rhymes come from using the same case suffix or
adjectival converter.
:)
TRANSLATION:
Nååspéek. * Génesis Ons: On - Nof *
Já Létpas hélakt on spèeka rûtad,
Frélak ålûtej qol tònrami grád.
Éntjireton unla éstu cunaj
Plú éntraton qéj núrra cùretaj
Jàmman âCinaraâ, plú sélaq cuhee.
Kônstetom qéj cíumma lonn ìngee
Qol brÄki plú glùari trâtonad,
Pa-qol stånni plú rôttami. Nélad:
âKônståtan qéj cíumma con màntceq;
âQèd màntce fréde tålenamad leq
âQunniia já ståårénur glìsataj.
âPlú zela pa-ålfîdarant pàsckejâ.
Et Gôdd sckésat qunniia Létpasu
Plú seoq cíummu plú màntcehu.
Gôdd nésad: âÃf értrede fråtétun
âÃ
lûtej con on tònraq, fèh frómun
âGôddaj, plú hórunt qur seoq swênnår.
âMàjenelelur seoq vôtcahår
âPlú seozi còmprenajesen bå.
âImmedårat, ffrÇner aq Äretå!â
Zus Gôdd dîiasporahelin sia;
Kônstetomiraiison dà màntca.
Ti frå dà ràzona qÇ já cíumm
Jàmmacan âCíumm de Múmmbluhâ, eerumm
Gôdd xájelin múmmbluha de spèekå;
Dîiasporahelin értredea.
PHONETICS FOR DUMMIES VERSION
(Pronunciation note: "x" and "q" are different types of palatal
fricatives. "J" is of the French variety. Otherwise to be pronounced
as standard R.P. English, with a strong Mancunian accent, whilst in
Sweden). No, I can't be bothered to type in IPA.
Nor-spairk: Jeh-neh-sis. Ons - nov
Ya let-pass heh-lakt on spair-ka roo-tad
Freh-lak or-luh-tay qol ton-ray-me grad.
Ent-year-re-ton un-lah es-too shun-ay
Ploo en-trah-ton qay nuh-rah shoo-re-tay
Ya-man âshin-ar-ahâ ploo se-laq shoe-hair.
Kon-steh-tom qay shee-um-ah lon in-jair
Qol bre-kee ploo gloo-ar-ee tra-ton-ad
Pa qol stor-nee ploo row-tar-mee. Neh-lad
âKon-stor-tan qay shee-um-ah con man-cheq
âQed man-cher freh-der tor-le-na-mad leq
âQoo-nee-ar ya stor-re-nur glih-sah-tay.
âPloo theh-lah pah all-fi-dar-rant pass-shka-yaâ.
Et god shke-sat qoo-nee-ar let-pa-soo
Ploo say-oq shee-u-moo ploo man-cheh-hoo.
God neh-sad âiv er-treh-der fror-the-tun
âOr-loo-tay con on ton-raq feh frow-mun
âGod-ay ploo hor-runt qur say-oq sweh-nor.
âMah-yeh-neh-leh-lur say-oq ßo-chah-hor
âPloo say-oh-thee com-preh-nay-yeh-sen bor.
âIm-meh-dor-rat frih-ner aq eh-reh-tor!â
Thus god dee-as-por-ra-heh-lin see-ah
Kon-steh-toh-meer-ray-ee-son dah man-chah.
Tee fror dah ray-tho-na qo yah shee-um
Yah-mah-shan âShee-um deh Mum-bluhâ air-rum
God xay-yeh-lin mum-bluh-hah deh spair-kor
Dee-as-por-ra-heh-lin er-treh-der-ah.
WHICH MEANS:
The Ancestors spoke one single tongue
And were united in great language.
They wandered to the distant east
And came across a plain there
Called âShinarâ and settled there.
They built a city on the wooded plain
With bricks and strange tar,
Not with stone and mortar. They said:
âLet us build a city with tower;
âA tower which is tall so that
âIt will reach the bright stars
âAnd we shall never be forgottenâ.
But God went to the Ancestors
And their city and tower.
God said âif humanity is
âUnited with one language, I see that they may be
âGodlike, and have all their wishes.
âI shall confuse their voices
âAnd they shall not understand each other.
âImmediately, have my will done!â
Thus God scattered them;
They ceased building the tower.
This is the reason why the city
Is called âCity of Nonsenseâ because
God made nonsense from language;
Scattered humanity.
CONCLUSION
Meh
On 10 Sep 2010, at 02:58, Richard Littauer wrote:
> I noticed recently that no one had done this, yet. So, here is my
> translation.
>
> NìÌnglìsi: Genesis 11: 1-9
> 1 Now the whole world had one language and a common speech.
> 2 As men moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled
> there.
> 3 They said to each other, Come, lets make bricks and bake them
> thoroughly. They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar.
> 4 Then they said, Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower
> that
> reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves and
> not
> be scattered over the face of the whole earth.
>
> 5 But the LORD came down to see the city and the tower that the men
> were
> building.
> 6 The LORD said, If as one people speaking the same language they
> have
> begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible
> for them.
> 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not
> understand
> each other.
>
> 8 So the LORD scattered them from there over all the earth, and they
> stopped
> building the city.
> 9 That is why it was called Babel because there the LORD confused
> the
> language of the whole world. From there the LORD scattered them over
> the
> face of the whole earth.
>
> NìNa'vi:
> Kifkeyur 'awa lì'fya sì tìpängkxo tenga nìwotx set lolu.
> Trr'ongne Na'vi rerikx
> krr a fol mì Sìnar teit run ulte mì fìtsenge kelku soli. Fo
> päplltxe san Ziva'u,
> kllteä itit ngivop ulte sa'ut 'ivem nìwotx sìk. Fol kllteä itit
> sar tup skxe, ulte
> kllteä pay säyimìri. Tsakrr fol plltxe san Ziva'u, fori fol
> txivula tsawla tsrayit a
> pumur lu ultral tskxeä a tsawl slu tawne, fte ayngaru tskxot ngivop
> ulte aynga
> avawnirä ke längu mì hey Ewya'evengä nìwotx sìk.
>
> Slä Yawä kllkä fte pol tsawla tsrayit sì utralit tskxeä a fo
> txarmula kivame.
> Yawä plltxe san Txo fol tìngusop fì'uä sngolä'i a krr fo nìwotx
> 'awa pongu a
> plltxe tenga lì'fya lu, ke'uri a fo fpìl 'uteri fo ke tsun ke kem
> sivi. Za'u, pxenga
> kivllkä fte livatem foä lì'fyat fte fo käpivame sìk.
>
> Ha Yawäl fot 'olärìp tsatsengne ka Eywa'eveng nìwotx, ulte fol
> tsawla tsrayitä
> tìtxuslat ftang. Tafral fìtsenge Pxäpxel syaw - alunta
> fìtsengemì Yawäl lolatem
> lì'fyat Eywa'evengä. Tsatsengeta Yawäl 'ärìp fot ka key
> Eywa'evengä.
>
> I had to break a few words into Na'vi circumlocutions, as normal,
> but I think it
> works.
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6a. Teaching kids Klingon (humor)
Posted by: "Sai Emrys" s...@saizai.com
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:09 pm ((PDT))
http://www.calamitiesofnature.com/archive/?c=402
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6b. Re: Teaching kids Klingon (humor)
Posted by: "Adam Walker" carra...@gmail.com
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:36 pm ((PDT))
Yo' mama got a smooth forehead! LOL Now, *that* is funny. Thanks Sai!
LOLing for real
Adam
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Sai Emrys <s...@saizai.com> wrote:
> http://www.calamitiesofnature.com/archive/?c=402
>
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6c. Re: Teaching kids Klingon (humor)
Posted by: "Richard Littauer" richard.litta...@gmail.com
Date: Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:50 pm ((PDT))
That's awesome.
I sometimes think I got stolen from the nursery. :P
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Adam Walker <carra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yo' mama got a smooth forehead! LOL Now, *that* is funny. Thanks Sai!
>
> LOLing for real
>
> Adam
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Sai Emrys <s...@saizai.com> wrote:
>
> > http://www.calamitiesofnature.com/archive/?c=402
> >
>
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