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1a. Hyborian Sign Language
From: Adam Walker
1b. Re: Hyborian Sign Language
From: Lee
2a. Re: OT: Place that you'd most like to live & reasons
From: Daniel Nielsen
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1a. Hyborian Sign Language
Posted by: "Adam Walker" carra...@gmail.com
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:02 pm ((PDT))
Does anyone here remeber the Amrican TV show from 1997-8, Conan, which was
released on DVD as Conan the Adventurer? I never watched it when it was on
TV since that was one of my no television set periods; however, I just
started watching it on Netflix via internet. the story includes a character
named Zzeben who is mute. I was four episodes in before I realized that
Zzeben's signs looked like more than just random gestures and decided to do
a quick google for info about the character and the actor (Robert McRay). I
quickly discovered that Mr. McRay claimed, in interviews from that time, to
have invented Hyborian Sign Language for his character. He claimed to have
300 signs in one interview and hinted that he had a grammar for the language
as well. So, as I watched episode 5, I started documenting what I was
seeing using Sign Writing (lots of rewinding and rebuffering!). In that one
episode Zzeben had 8 distinct utterances totalling 28 signs, by my count,
with 24 unique signs.
I have made preliminary gueses at the meanings of several signs including:
SCREAM, YOU/THERE, COME ON, ME, FOLLOW, DRINK, DRUNK, NOT, TOGETHER or
ALONE, KNOW, MONSTER, WOMAN, SERIOUS. Any or all of these guesses could be
wrong, and I haven't even started looking at grammar yet.
I find it interesting enough that I will go back and rewatch the first 4
episodes to document Zzeben's dialogue from them before going on with the
remaining episodes. But before I go on, I thought I would ask if anyone
else had done any documenting of this conlang. If anyone has, I would
appreciate comparing notes. Also, if anyone else wanted to watch the
episodes (which really are dreadful TV) and collaborate in documenting it, I
would be glad of the help. Sometimes I'm not 100% sure what I've seen even
after several replays. It really is better to be able to watch signs in
slow motion to catch the important details. I finally miss Elan.
Adam
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1b. Re: Hyborian Sign Language
Posted by: "Lee" waywardwre...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:07 pm ((PDT))
I vaguely remember it. I suppose I could refresh my memory...
http://www.amazon.com/Conan-Adventurer-Complete-Ally-Dunne/dp/B0002NRS1O
Sounds like an interesting project you have there!
Lee
--- On Sun, 8/29/10, Adam Walker <carra...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Adam Walker <carra...@gmail.com>
Subject: Hyborian Sign Language
To: conl...@listserv.brown.edu
Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 7:52 PM
Does anyone here remeber the Amrican TV show from 1997-8, Conan, which was
released on DVD as Conan the Adventurer? I never watched it when it was on
TV since that was one of my no television set periods; however, I just
started watching it on Netflix via internet. the story includes a character
named Zzeben who is mute. I was four episodes in before I realized that
Zzeben's signs looked like more than just random gestures and decided to do
a quick google for info about the character and the actor (Robert McRay). I
quickly discovered that Mr. McRay claimed, in interviews from that time, to
have invented Hyborian Sign Language for his character. He claimed to have
300 signs in one interview and hinted that he had a grammar for the language
as well. So, as I watched episode 5, I started documenting what I was
seeing using Sign Writing (lots of rewinding and rebuffering!). In that one
episode Zzeben had 8 distinct utterances totalling 28 signs, by my count,
with 24 unique signs.
I have made preliminary gueses at the meanings of several signs including:
SCREAM, YOU/THERE, COME ON, ME, FOLLOW, DRINK, DRUNK, NOT, TOGETHER or
ALONE, KNOW, MONSTER, WOMAN, SERIOUS. Any or all of these guesses could be
wrong, and I haven't even started looking at grammar yet.
I find it interesting enough that I will go back and rewatch the first 4
episodes to document Zzeben's dialogue from them before going on with the
remaining episodes. But before I go on, I thought I would ask if anyone
else had done any documenting of this conlang. If anyone has, I would
appreciate comparing notes. Also, if anyone else wanted to watch the
episodes (which really are dreadful TV) and collaborate in documenting it, I
would be glad of the help. Sometimes I'm not 100% sure what I've seen even
after several replays. It really is better to be able to watch signs in
slow motion to catch the important details. I finally miss Elan.
Adam
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2a. Re: OT: Place that you'd most like to live & reasons
Posted by: "Daniel Nielsen" niel...@uah.edu
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:57 pm ((PDT))
In Santa Maria, Ca., where my father grew up, he said the temperatures were
so uniformly nice that the ads were, "Never too hot, never too cool, just
right for a barbeque". Not exactly a great rhyme, really :)
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