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1a. Barbara Newhall Follett's artlang From: Rich Harrison 1b. Re: Barbara Newhall Follett's artlang From: Padraic Brown 2a. Re: THEORY: Loss of allophonic variation From: Eric Christopherson 3a. Re: Neoslavonic language tutorial From: Nikolay Ivankov Messages ________________________________________________________________________ 1a. Barbara Newhall Follett's artlang Posted by: "Rich Harrison" r...@harrison.net Date: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:14 am ((PDT)) Barbara Newhall Follett had a couple of novels published at a very young age early in the 20th century. In 1939, at the age of 25, she vanished. She had a conworld called Farksolia with its own language. Some fragments of the writing, including a page of glossary, can be found here: http://www.farksolia.org/category/farksolia/ Messages in this topic (2) ________________________________________________________________________ 1b. Re: Barbara Newhall Follett's artlang Posted by: "Padraic Brown" elemti...@yahoo.com Date: Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:56 pm ((PDT)) Only one word for this -- wow. Definitely taken away too soon! Now will have to read her stories... Padraic --- On Sun, 3/25/12, Rich Harrison <r...@harrison.net> wrote: > From: Rich Harrison <r...@harrison.net> > Subject: [CONLANG] Barbara Newhall Follett's artlang > To: conl...@listserv.brown.edu > Date: Sunday, March 25, 2012, 12:14 PM > Barbara Newhall Follett had a couple > of novels published at a very young age > early in the 20th century. In 1939, at the age of 25, she > vanished. > > She had a conworld called Farksolia with its own language. > Some fragments of > the writing, including a page of glossary, can be found > here: > http://www.farksolia.org/category/farksolia/ > Messages in this topic (2) ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ 2a. Re: THEORY: Loss of allophonic variation Posted by: "Eric Christopherson" ra...@charter.net Date: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:46 pm ((PDT)) On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:25 PM, BPJ wrote: > On 2012-03-23 23:38, Eric Christopherson wrote: >> How likely is it that the phonemes in question have*only* voiceless stop >> allophones? > > That's a good question. One immediately thinks > "intervocalic lenition"! Then I remembered that the > historical voiced fricative allophones of Finnish /p t > k/ were actually not triggered by intervocalic > position, but by being the onset of a closed syllable. Oh, yeah. Does anyone know how the *onset* of such a syllable was affected by the closedness of it? > Synchronically the picture is jumbled: [ɣ] was mostly > lost, [β] merged with /ʋ/ and [ð] merged with /ɾ l/zero > or (in the Swedish- influenced standard pronunciation) > became /d/, a new phoneme because the conditioning > environment was sometimes lost since final /k/ > [ʔ] > 0. > > But more relevant: what about where there is an aspiration > distinction. IIUC Mandarin stops don't have voiced allophones, > do they? Oh, good question. Now that I think about it, ISTR that they don't; but some hits on Google contradict us: <http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-1770.1959.tb01124.x/abstract> "In Mandarin bilabial stops, aspiration is phonemic; voicing is allophinic." (sic; I don't have access to the part of the article that has that quote) <http://linguaphiles.livejournal.com/5008019.html> - surrealkitten and muckefuck say Mandarin has voiced stop allophones; the others in the thread seem to disagree My conlang at the heart of this question has a protolanguage with voiced and voiceless stops; the voiced stops later become breathy voiced, and they eventually merge with the voiceless ones. So there is no aspiration contrast in later stages. > > /bpj Messages in this topic (6) ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ 3a. Re: Neoslavonic language tutorial Posted by: "Nikolay Ivankov" lukevil...@gmail.com Date: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:02 am ((PDT)) Downloaded the book. Thanks! Everything looks pretty much readable, though I have some practical skills in Church Slavonic, so that this can make some things more understandable for me. On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Vojtěch Merunka <vmeru...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello conlangers! > > This is the on-line English tutorial of the Neoslavonic language (NS), > which is a non-commercial project made for the Interslavic community. > Neoslavonic is a zonal constructed language made to facilitate direct > communication between speakers of Slavic languages group. > > http://tutorial.neoslavonic.**org <http://tutorial.neoslavonic.org> > > regards > Vojta Merunka > Messages in this topic (2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conlang/ <*> Your email settings: Digest Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conlang/join (Yahoo! 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