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Topics in this digest:
1.1. Re: Real names
From: Padraic Brown
1.2. Re: Real names
From: BPJ
1.3. Re: Real names
From: Alex Fink
1.4. Re: Real names
From: MorphemeAddict
1.5. Re: Real names
From: MorphemeAddict
1.6. Re: Real names
From: Padraic Brown
1.7. Re: Real names
From: Padraic Brown
1.8. Re: Real names
From: George Corley
1.9. Re: Real names
From: BPJ
1.10. Re: Real names
From: Padraic Brown
1.11. Re: Real names
From: Kelvin Jackson
2a. Re: Bernard Comrie, The World's Major Languages, 2ed (2011)
From: Padraic Brown
3a. Censorship and Dictionary-creation Final Answer
From: Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
3b. Re: Censorship and Dictionary-creation Final Answer
From: Douglas Koller
3c. Re: Censorship and Dictionary-creation Final Answer
From: Douglas Koller
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1.1. Re: Real names
Posted by: "Padraic Brown" elemti...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Sep 1, 2012 10:51 am ((PDT))
--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Jim Henry <jimhenry1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> in different spheres / communities. I know judging
> a book by
> >> it's cover is supposedly Bad, but a cover usually
> tells you
> >> everything you need to know about how a person
> interacts
> >> with the world or wants to be perceived by the
> world: a name
> >> is just part of a person's dust jacket.
>
> The analogys seems inapt. I don't think a
> book's cover art, or even
> its title, is a good analogy for person's name -- certainly
> not given
> names, and only rarely for self-chosen names.
Perhaps a given name especially is more like the ISBN. It serves as a means
of retrieving data or finding the book on the shelf / person in the
database.
> From a person's given
> name you can make a guess at their ethnicity,
A highly unreliable guess! Especially given the way biblical and Christian
names have spread around the world, American slaves being given their
masters' family name, immigrants to the US taking on or being told to
take new names.
I think you might get a *slightly* better gauge of ethnicity or at least
ethnic heritage from the surname.
> and maybe at their age
> (based on when certain names for babies were most popular;
> e.g.
> somebody named "Jason" is probably under 45), but that's
> about it.
And I know several Jasons over 45, so this is about as haphazard a guess
as the person's ethnicity!
> From their nickname or online handle you might get a little
> bit more
> information about their personality or interests,
If you can make sense of the nickname. Mine is not as immediately
transparent as some others. But even then, nicknames don't necessarily
tell you anything about the person. I've used throw-away email accounts
with perfectly sensible English words that don't reflect anything personal
about me.
> but probably not as
> much or as reliable information as you'd get about the
> typical book from its title or its cover design.
>
> > Well, the cover of a book only tells you about the
> marketing aims of the
> > publisher and the erotic fantasies of the artist, not
> so much about the
> > content of the book itself. A lot of books with
> exciting cover art and
> > enticing blurbs on the back have turned out to be
> horrifically unreadable
> > as stories.
>
> The *quality* of the cover art, typography, layout, etc. may
> have very
> little correlation with the *quality* of the writing and
> storytelling.
Of course. The quality of either simply reflect the artistic ability of
the painter and writer respectively. What I'm saying is that the picture
itself -- imagine if you will the stereotypical wild blonde haired, D-cup
wielding, orc-head-smashing barbarian heroine -- doesn't tell you all that
much about whether the story contained within is a good read or not. The
girl on the front may or may not play a prominent role in the story. The
scene depicted may not even be part of the story line! Even if the story
has a heroine, she may be described in the book as a short, slim black
haired girl who relies more on throwing knives and stealth -- quite unlike
the basher on the cover! The role of the cover art is simple and clear-cut:
hook the potential buyer and turn him into an actual buyer! This is why
they put sexy girls on car hoods and coke commercials. Sexy girls sell
products and it's really no different for books.
> And a lot of covers don't represent the detailed content of
> the book
> with a high degree of accuracy. But once you get to
> know the cues and
> conventions, they are a halfway decent guide to what genre
> and subgenre the book falls into.
Sure.
> Not a perfectly reliable guide, but far
> more reliable than facing a shelf of indentically formatted
> books with
> no cover art, only the title and author's name in a single
> standard
> font... you'd have grab each book whose title looks halfway
> interesting and read the first page or so, rather than
> subconsciously
> filtering them by their cover art into the genres you're
> interested in
> and those you aren't, so you don't have to read the first
> pages of so
> many books to find the ones you want to read.
This is a) exactly what you have to do with most books published before
the 1930s or so and b) exactly what you have to do when confronted with
an unknown person the only thing about whom you know is the name! Take a
little time to get to know.
For example, I found a xix century book in the F/SF racks at the local
shop. I forget the title -- Fairy Queen Something-or-Other. Looked
interesting based on the title, but the prose was just so horrible -- that
condescending tone authors of the time used when addressing children --
that regardless of what merit the story itself may have had, the book was
entirely unreadable. Especially for the price they wanted for the book.
If there were a good story in there, it would have to be rewritten.
So, I think the original analogy is not entirely inapt. A similar process
of piqued interest and careful investigation is required to discover
whether a book is worth reading or a person is worth befriending. Whether
it's the picture on the front of the book or a resume or first introduction
of a person -- all that is just advertising hype. You don't really learn
much about the book or the person from those first impressions. Which is
why we have the old bromide "you can't judge a book by its covers" in the
first place, and why we apply it to people as well!
Padraic
> Jim Henry
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1.2. Re: Real names
Posted by: "BPJ" b...@melroch.se
Date: Sat Sep 1, 2012 1:59 pm ((PDT))
On 2012-09-01 01:31, Alex Fink wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:52:50 +0100, Sam Stutter <samjj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > *Actually*, if anyone thinks this is going OT, well,
> > ha, because this is exactly the right place to bring it
> > back to conlanging. In many cultures, one is given a
> > name at birth and then chooses one oneself when you
> > come of age. How does your conlang:
> >
> > a) coin names?
> > b) give them to people?
> > c) are there differences / similarities between names
> > for each gender?
> > d) use names for genetic continuity / heritage (if at
> > all)?
> > e) etc
>
> I hain't given more than trivial thought to onomastics in
> my langs, but let me turn this around and ask an ANADEW-
> type question.
>
> Some people here have mentioned naming schemes where, in
> various ways, names are arranged to be nonwords. But this
> kind of thing feels rather unlikely to me. Names being straight-
> up meaningful (maybe plus a name-making morpheme), natural
> enough; names being chosen from a standard stock most of
> whose meanings have been long forgotten, fine. But an
> actual constraint _against_ a name being a word? Names
> assembled bespoke for their sound-taste, or omnium
> gatherum out of syllables, with no particular invocation
> of any words intended? Do these things actually happen?
> (often?)
>
> I suppose modern-day black Americans kinda exemplify a
> form of the second pattern, so there's one. (And it can be
> accounted for. Here is David Zax tracing its origins back
> to 60s black separatist sentiment:
> http://www.salon.com/2008/08/25/creative_black_names/ Do
> those of you with this kind of pattern have such
> explanations for it?)
>
> Alex
>
It is evidently the case that since most given names in
Western culture were borrowed from foreign languages -- the
Bible, ancient saints' names, other names from ancient
history/mythology -- with their meaning being unknown to
most people westerners have actually lost the
feeling/awareness/expectation that names *should* mean
anything. To most people most names *are* more or less pleasant-
sounding nonwords. I've even met dispelief at the notion
that names, or at least western names, actually *have*
meanings, what-to-call-your-baby books notwithstanding. From
there the step to the *expectation* that names should be
nonwords is small. This said there are cultures where at
least some words are altered when they form part of names
for taboo reasons, and even in ancient Greek, Indian and
Germanic culture some names of the IE compound type seem to
have been rather mechanically put together from the elements
of ancestors' names with little or no heed to what the
resulting compound would mean.
My own concultures are a mixed lot. Rhodrese is a Romlang
set in a mildly althistoric Europe, so their names are of
the traditional Western quasi-nonword type. Euia Twas names
are similarly loans from Sanskrit and Middle IndoAryan,
similar to the western situation. Sohlçan names, OTOH are
meaningful words from the Sohlob languages. In the lower
strata of society birth names usually describe or evoke some
observed or wished-for desirable quality. In the higher
strata most birth names are ancestors' names which often
started out as nicknames. As poeple grow up and live their
lives they usually have more or less descriptive, more or
less reverent nicknames bestowed/foisted on them, and it's
usually by these they are known to contemporaries and
posterity. For example the most famous Sohlçan philologist
is known as Fenderzoqd 'little elephant', because he was a
small and lean man, but an elephant of learning, but also
probably with a humorous undertone because his birth name
Fimeg 'strong' had proven rather ill-chosen! That his birth
name and nickname alliterate is a coincidence, but looks
like it wants to become a pattern. Additionally both birth
names and nicknames get hypochoristic forms used by
intimates and family, usually formed from the first syllable
of the full name, sometimes with reduplication, so that
Fenderzoqd's friends may have called him Fend -- which is a
clipping, the word for 'small' being _fender_ --, while his
mother may have called him Fimfim. OTOH to call him Fenfen
would have been an insult coming from anybody but a lover,
although lovers, family and friends, often have their own
limited-circulation nicknames for each other, as have
teachers for their students. Thus Fenderzoqd is known to
have been called Emsnerqbor 'red-inky fingers' by his
teacher because of his use of red ink to mark metacitations,
an invention of his.
/bpj
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1.3. Re: Real names
Posted by: "Alex Fink" 000...@gmail.com
Date: Sat Sep 1, 2012 3:41 pm ((PDT))
On Sat, 1 Sep 2012 22:59:31 +0200, BPJ <b...@melroch.se> wrote:
>It is evidently the case that since most given names in
>Western culture were borrowed from foreign languages -- the
>Bible, ancient saints' names, other names from ancient
>history/mythology -- with their meaning being unknown to
>most people westerners have actually lost the
>feeling/awareness/expectation that names *should* mean
>anything. To most people most names *are* more or less pleasant-
>sounding nonwords.
I'll concede the part about lacking meaning; this is what I meant about names
being drawn from a stock, and perhaps I framed the part about meaning badly.
But IMO Western names are still _word_like, though they're an anomalous type of
words without any fixed denotations. They're like words (and unlike random
pleasant-sounding productions) in that the class of meaningless ones is closed
modulo borrowing: (to transcribe to my lect) English /'tAm@s/ and /dZOr\dZ/ are
clearly valid personal names, and /'dZAm@s/ and /tOr\dZ/ are clearly not.
>This said there are cultures where at
>least some words are altered when they form part of names
>for taboo reasons,
Example? The opposite, that words can become taboo because they appear in
names, I know of some attestations of: Polynesian langs (e.g. Tahitian) have
had that, as have some Australian langs (I forget specific examples). One good
way to turn up the rate of lexical replacement.
Alex
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1.4. Re: Real names
Posted by: "MorphemeAddict" lytl...@gmail.com
Date: Sat Sep 1, 2012 4:42 pm ((PDT))
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 3:19 AM, R A Brown <r...@carolandray.plus.com> wrote:
> On 27/08/2012 19:43, BPJ wrote:
> [snip]
>
>>
>> There may be people who are in a position to affect you
>> aversely who may do so because of a prejudice against
>> conlanging in particular or nerdy pursuits in general.
>>
>
> Maybe, and that is sad. But in all the years since I've had
> webpages online (nine years, I think), I have _never once_
> received any malicious, insulting or generally adverse
> emails about my conlanging interests.
>
> On the other hand, I have received (and probably will
> continue to do so from time to time) some very nasty and
> abusive emails about my Eteocretan pages:
> http://www.carolandray.plus.**com/Eteocretan/index.html<http://www.carolandray.plus.com/Eteocretan/index.html>
>
> ...and about the Lemnian inscription in particular:
> http://www.carolandray.plus.**com/Eteocretan/Lemnian.html<http://www.carolandray.plus.com/Eteocretan/Lemnian.html>
>
> But I would have got the messages whether I used my own name
> or some pseudonym. I have stuck with my 'real' name, partly
> because the material on the Eteocretan pages is based on
> work I had already published under my own name many years
> previously.
> ==============================**========================
>
> On 27/08/2012 19:47, Arthaey Angosii wrote:
> [snip]
>
>
>> On the flip side, what benefit do you get from knowing a
>> conlanger's real name? I consistently go by "Arthaey"
>> online, so it has pretty much all the benefits of a
>> stable name.
>>
>
> Aw, and I had always assumed you really were Arthaey.
>
He really IS Arthaey. No illusion.
stevo
> Another illusion shattered ;)
> ==============================**========================
>
> n 27/08/2012 20:39, Mechthild Czapp wrote:
> [snip]
>
>> ..............................**. I don't think it warrants
>> anger or the like if someone uses a pseudonym.
>>
>
> Indeed not. As Juliet once observed: "What's in a name?
> That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as
> sweet."
>
> I think people should be free to use whatsoever name,
> moniker, handle they like (as long as it is openly
> offensive). I find it intriguing to guess why some
> pseudonyms are chosen; "neo gu" and "vii iiix" have, for
> example, given me many interesting moments of speculation
> ;)
>
> --
> Ray
> ==============================**====
> http://www.carolandray.plus.**com <http://www.carolandray.plus.com>
> ==============================**====
> Nid rhy hen neb i ddysgu.
> There's none too old to learn.
> [WELSH PROVERB]
>
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1.5. Re: Real names
Posted by: "MorphemeAddict" lytl...@gmail.com
Date: Sat Sep 1, 2012 4:43 pm ((PDT))
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:47 AM, BPJ <b...@melroch.se> wrote:
> On 2012-08-30 09:05, A. da Mek wrote:
>
>> Expressing who you are and definitively tying your interests to
>>> your "real name" (i.e. who you are) is one of the many ways of
>>> weeding out those whom you don't have anything in common
>>>
>>
>> It would weed out not those whom I don't have _anything_ in
>> common, but those whom I don't have _everything_ in common.
>> If I share with someone common interests in some art or sport, I
>> do not want to spoil this relation by the knowledge that in some
>> other dimension of life we are regarding each other to be an idiot.
>>
>
> Exactly! When I was on Facebook I got friendship (is that the
> term they use in English) requests
"friend request" is the term I use.
stevo
> from clients, colleagues,
> kids' teachers, old schoolmates, in-laws and such as well as
> from acquaintances from conlanging and fandom and from friends
> outside these fields, and inevitably some in the non-nerdy
> categories wondered what the hell I was up to/what an idiot
> I was. A total disaster in fact. I know for a fact that I
> lost clients, and some colleagues ceased to recommend me to
> clients they hadn't time to serve. Not to speak of the
> attitude the kids' teachers got...
>
> /bpj
>
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1.6. Re: Real names
Posted by: "Padraic Brown" elemti...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Sep 1, 2012 6:46 pm ((PDT))
--- On Sat, 9/1/12, BPJ <b...@melroch.se> wrote:
> For example the most famous Sohlçan philologist
> is known as Fenderzoqd 'little elephant', because he was a
> small and lean man, but an elephant of learning, but also
> probably with a humorous undertone because his birth name
> Fimeg 'strong' had proven rather ill-chosen! That his birth
> name and nickname alliterate is a coincidence, but looks
> like it wants to become a pattern. Additionally both birth
> names and nicknames get hypochoristic forms used by
> intimates and family, usually formed from the first syllable
> of the full name, sometimes with reduplication, so that
> Fenderzoqd's friends may have called him Fend -- which is a
> clipping, the word for 'small' being _fender_ --, while his
> mother may have called him Fimfim.
This sounds rather reminiscent of Philippine nicknames, which are often
reduplicated and cutified in some way. Carlos might be called Caluy which
might be further familiarised to Luyluy. Benigno might be called Ninoy.
Padraic
> /bpj
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1.7. Re: Real names
Posted by: "Padraic Brown" elemti...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Sep 1, 2012 8:19 pm ((PDT))
--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Daniel Bowman <danny.c.bow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Daniel Bowman <danny.c.bow...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CONLANG] Real names
> To: conl...@listserv.brown.edu
> Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 2:49 PM
> > It's probable that if you're born alone on a desert island that you'd
> > never develop language at all.
>
> As an aside, Alfred Ayer published a famous essay called
> "Can there be a
> Private Language" concerning that statement. It's been
> five years since I
> read it, and I do not recall if it specifically addressed a
> castaway naming
> himself. However it does point out that a person
> existing entirely in
> isolation would first have to develop the *concept of
> language* prior to
> inventing a new language.
>
> I managed to track down a link:
>
> http://archive.org/details/conceptofpersono00ayer
>
> The essay starts on Page 36.
And it only takes him eight pages to get around to this part!
I was thinking more of the stories of feral children and their inability
to learn language after later contact with other people. A person being
born on a desert island AND never learning language from the mother AND
having her die AND having the little toddler survive to adulthood is
probably far-fetched enough to make the above speculation entirely
impossible. Without some kind of amoral mad-scientist type keeping a human
baby alive and healthy while otherwise starving it of human contact for
the six or seven years required to get it taking care of itself.
Padraic
>
> Danny
>
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1.8. Re: Real names
Posted by: "George Corley" gacor...@gmail.com
Date: Sun Sep 2, 2012 4:16 am ((PDT))
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Padraic Brown <elemti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- On Fri, 8/31/12, Jim Henry <jimhenry1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From a person's given
> > name you can make a guess at their ethnicity,
>
> A highly unreliable guess! Especially given the way biblical and Christian
> names have spread around the world, American slaves being given their
> masters' family name, immigrants to the US taking on or being told to
> take new names.
>
> I think you might get a *slightly* better gauge of ethnicity or at least
> ethnic heritage from the surname.
Also, don't forget the spread of Arabic names with Islam. Those often
replace surnames as well.
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Padraic Brown <elemti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- On Fri, 8/31/12, Daniel Bowman <danny.c.bow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Daniel Bowman <danny.c.bow...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CONLANG] Real names
> > To: conl...@listserv.brown.edu
> > Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 2:49 PM
> > > It's probable that if you're born alone on a desert island that you'd
> > > never develop language at all.
> >
> > As an aside, Alfred Ayer published a famous essay called
> > "Can there be a
> > Private Language" concerning that statement. It's been
> > five years since I
> > read it, and I do not recall if it specifically addressed a
> > castaway naming
> > himself. However it does point out that a person
> > existing entirely in
> > isolation would first have to develop the *concept of
> > language* prior to
> > inventing a new language.
> >
> > I managed to track down a link:
> >
> > http://archive.org/details/conceptofpersono00ayer
> >
> > The essay starts on Page 36.
>
> And it only takes him eight pages to get around to this part!
>
> I was thinking more of the stories of feral children and their inability
> to learn language after later contact with other people. A person being
> born on a desert island AND never learning language from the mother AND
> having her die AND having the little toddler survive to adulthood is
> probably far-fetched enough to make the above speculation entirely
> impossible. Without some kind of amoral mad-scientist type keeping a human
> baby alive and healthy while otherwise starving it of human contact for
> the six or seven years required to get it taking care of itself.
>
It is rare and an unbelievably cruel form of neglect, but there have been a
few children found who were starved of human contact to the point of
affecting language development. They've provided important case studies in
language acquisition, in fact.
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1.9. Re: Real names
Posted by: "BPJ" b...@melroch.se
Date: Sun Sep 2, 2012 5:06 am ((PDT))
On 2012-09-02 00:41, Alex Fink wrote:
> > This said there are cultures where at
> > > least some words are altered when they form part of
> > > names for taboo reasons,
> Example? The opposite, that words can become taboo
> because they appear in names, I know of some attestations
> of: Polynesian langs (e.g. Tahitian) have had that, as
> have some Australian langs (I forget specific examples).
> One good way to turn up the rate of lexical replacement.
I may well have been misremembering.
BTW I once read that in parts of India the wife's name is
taboo for the husband, who must absolutely not utter it. In
recent decades (the book was written in the 1970's IIRC) the
loanword /wa:if/ has come in as a handy way of referring to
her, which is OK because it so to speak was outside the
traditional reference system.
/bpj
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1.10. Re: Real names
Posted by: "Padraic Brown" elemti...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun Sep 2, 2012 6:43 am ((PDT))
--- On Sun, 9/2/12, George Corley <gacor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: George Corley <gacor...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CONLANG] Real names
> To: conl...@listserv.brown.edu
> Date: Sunday, September 2, 2012, 7:16 AM
> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 12:51 PM,
> Padraic Brown <elemti...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > --- On Fri, 8/31/12, Jim Henry <jimhenry1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From a person's given
> > > name you can make a guess at their ethnicity,
> >
> > A highly unreliable guess! Especially given the way
> biblical and Christian
> > names have spread around the world, American slaves
> being given their
> > masters' family name, immigrants to the US taking on or
> being told to
> > take new names.
> >
> > I think you might get a *slightly* better gauge of ethnicity or at
> > least ethnic heritage from the surname.
>
> Also, don't forget the spread of Arabic names with
> Islam. Those often replace surnames as well.
Yes indeedy. And there's also the pseudoIslams you find in the US (NOI
e.g.) who also spread Arabic names. But this, like Christianity, only
serves to obfuscate the namewearer's ethnicity!
> > I was thinking more of the stories of feral children and their
> > inability to learn language after later contact with other
> > people. A person being
> > born on a desert island AND never learning language
> > from the mother AND
> > having her die AND having the little toddler survive to adulthood is
> > probably far-fetched enough to make the above
> > speculation entirely
> > impossible. Without some kind of amoral mad-scientist
> > type keeping a human
> > baby alive and healthy while otherwise starving it of
> > human contact for
> > the six or seven years required to get it taking care of itself.
>
> It is rare and an unbelievably cruel form of neglect, but
> there have been a
> few children found who were starved of human contact to the
> point of
> affecting language development. They've provided
> important case studies in
> language acquisition, in fact.
Exactly.
Padraic
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1.11. Re: Real names
Posted by: "Kelvin Jackson" kechp...@comcast.net
Date: Sun Sep 2, 2012 6:53 am ((PDT))
Sent from my iPhone
>
> He really IS Arthaey. No illusion.
>
>>
I'm not sure Arthaey is a he, assuming memory serves.
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2a. Re: Bernard Comrie, The World's Major Languages, 2ed (2011)
Posted by: "Padraic Brown" elemti...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Sep 1, 2012 6:34 pm ((PDT))
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:37 PM, taliesin the storyteller <taliesin-
conl...@nvg.org> wrote:
> Basically:
>
> Meh. Is the rest of the book as meh as that chapter?
>
> My L1 is Norwegian. The Norwegian he describes might have been correct
> before I was born. I've checked with other Norwegians, they think it
> sounds like something from the 1930s. My grandparents would speak like
> that when making a joke or telling stories about the bad old days.
I don't have that book (as far as I know), so can't comment on the English
section. But - - has Norwegian changed só much that a grammar written in
the 1990s or that the language spoken in the 1930s sounds so wrong?
Obviously, I wasn't around in the 30s so can't really directly compare the
Englishes of now and going on a century ago, but, I don't notice anything
particularly wrong or unusual in the movie, television or radio program
dialogs of that era (slangibus exceptis).
Padraic
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3a. Censorship and Dictionary-creation Final Answer
Posted by: "Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews" goldyemo...@gmail.com
Date: Sat Sep 1, 2012 9:55 pm ((PDT))
Yemora is an uncut world. The dictionary is created by each villager and
city-dweller, then each Coucil contributes to the dictionary, during
Dictionary-creation Weeek. They meet at different villager and city-dweller's
homes, just as the Amish do when they have quilting bees. Yemorans use a
tactile writing system. Once the dictionary is complete, it's sent off to the
editor/publisher for proffing and timing and dammage inspection. The inspection
takes another week to complete. If approved, then the dictionary is coppied
and sent to the public. This process takes place annually. If not approved, the
dictionary is redone.
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3b. Re: Censorship and Dictionary-creation Final Answer
Posted by: "Douglas Koller" douglaskol...@hotmail.com
Date: Sun Sep 2, 2012 12:54 am ((PDT))
> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 00:55:40 -0400
> From: goldyemo...@gmail.com
> Subject: Censorship and Dictionary-creation Final Answer
> To: conl...@listserv.brown.edu
> Yemora is an uncut world. The dictionary is created by each villager and
> city-dweller, then each Coucil contributes to the dictionary, during
> Dictionary-creation Weeek. They meet at different villager and city >
> -dweller's homes, just as the Amish do when they have quilting bees. Yemorans
> use a tactile writing system. Once the dictionary is complete, it's sent off
> to the editor/publisher for proffing and timing and > dammage inspection. The
> inspection takes another week to complete. If approved, then the dictionary
> is coppied and sent to the public. This process takes place annually. If not
> approved, the dictionary is > redone.
CoucilWeeekdweller's proffingdammagecoppied Oh well, back to the Council. ;D
Kou
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3c. Re: Censorship and Dictionary-creation Final Answer
Posted by: "Douglas Koller" douglaskol...@hotmail.com
Date: Sun Sep 2, 2012 1:32 am ((PDT))
> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 03:54:22 -0400
> From: douglaskol...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: Censorship and Dictionary-creation Final Answer
> To: conl...@listserv.brown.edu
> > Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 00:55:40 -0400
> > From: goldyemo...@gmail.com
> > Subject: Censorship and Dictionary-creation Final Answer
> > To: conl...@listserv.brown.edu
> > Yemora is an uncut world. The dictionary is created by each villager and
> > city-dweller, then each Coucil contributes to the dictionary, during
> > Dictionary-creation Weeek. They meet at different villager and
> > city-dweller's homes, just as the Amish do when they have quilting bees.
> > Yemorans use a tactile writing system. Once the dictionary is complete,
> > it's sent off to the editor/publisher for proffing and timing and dammage
> > inspection. The inspection takes another week to complete. If approved,
> > then the dictionary is coppied and sent to the public. This process takes
> > place annually. If not approved, the dictionary is redone.
> Coucil Weeek dweller's proffing dammage coppied... Oh well, back to the
> Council. ;D Kou Oh dear. Yet another computer to work out the spacing
> issues with. And I so suck at it. Apologies for the butchered last post. Kou
>
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