[jira] Updated: (CONNECTORS-92) Move from ant to maven or other build system with decent library management

2010-08-30 Thread Jettro Coenradie (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-92?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jettro Coenradie updated CONNECTORS-92: --- Attachment: maven-poms-problem-starting-jetty-and-derby.patch This is a patch

[jira] Commented: (CONNECTORS-92) Move from ant to maven or other build system with decent library management

2010-08-30 Thread Karl Wright (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-92?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12904205#action_12904205 ] Karl Wright commented on CONNECTORS-92: --- Jettro, If you are using maven to start

[jira] Commented: (CONNECTORS-92) Move from ant to maven or other build system with decent library management

2010-08-30 Thread Karl Wright (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-92?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12904209#action_12904209 ] Karl Wright commented on CONNECTORS-92: --- I've had a cursory glance at the pom

[jira] Commented: (CONNECTORS-92) Move from ant to maven or other build system with decent library management

2010-08-30 Thread Karl Wright (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-92?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12904219#action_12904219 ] Karl Wright commented on CONNECTORS-92: --- bq. I am still thinking about why this is

Re: About name change

2010-08-30 Thread Karl Wright
Open Connectors Framework is good, but suffers from the same broadness issue that Apache Connectors Framework has, no? Yukon is fine but is already used - see https://devel.neopsis.com/projects/yukon/ Here are my thoughts about a more restricted CF-style name: Repository Connectors Framework CM

Re: About name change

2010-08-30 Thread Karl Wright
snip - Consider using functional names, especially for products of existing projects, e.g. for an Apache Foo project, the product name Apache Foo Pipelines. -snip Granted, Lucene Connectors Framework fills this to a T, but this would imply that functional names are OK for top-level projects too.

Re: About name change

2010-08-30 Thread Jack Krupansky
I think the first order of business should be to decide whether the name is going to be descriptive or abstract. Exactly what that abstract name or descriptive name is should be the second order of business, I think. Some might disagree, but I don't think the first decision should be predicated

Re: About name change

2010-08-30 Thread Jack Krupansky
I meant decide the abstract vs. descriptive issue first. Whether we need to decide to vote whether to hold a vote on that or just vote immediately on the abstract vs. descriptive question. Either way is fine with me. I'd prefer to hold off on deciding the exact name until the abstract vs.

Re: About name change

2010-08-30 Thread Karl Wright
I know what you meant. For me, anyway, the choices don't slice cleanly along that dimension. e.g., I'd vote for a combination first, a purely descriptive name second, and an abstract name third. FWIW, this would be my vote in order of preference (with the current Apache Connectors Framework

[jira] Commented: (CONNECTORS-92) Move from ant to maven or other build system with decent library management

2010-08-30 Thread Karl Wright (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CONNECTORS-92?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12904324#action_12904324 ] Karl Wright commented on CONNECTORS-92: --- Another way you can determine what's

Re: About name change

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Miller
On 8/30/10 1:37 PM, Karl Wright wrote: snip - Consider using functional names, especially for products of existing projects, e.g. for an Apache Foo project, the product name Apache Foo Pipelines. -snip Granted, Lucene Connectors Framework fills this to a T, but this would imply that

Re: About name change

2010-08-30 Thread Karl Wright
TrafficServer? OpenWebBeans? XMLBeans? There are actually a *lot* of names that are multiple words. They're just mashed together. ;-) Karl On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/30/10 1:37 PM, Karl Wright wrote: snip - Consider using functional

Re: About name change

2010-08-30 Thread Karl Wright
I'm not going to go head-to-head with you trying to split hairs. ;-) Can we agree that something like ContentCF is a possibility under your guidelines? (I'm not proposing that, I'm just trying to open the field up a bit.) Karl On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com

Re: About name change

2010-08-30 Thread Jack Krupansky
I suspect those multi-word names kind of sneaked in without the naming police having a chance to point out the naming guidelines early in the project process. For the record, I am okay with XYZ Open Connectors Framework or XYZ Content Connectors Framework or XYZ Connectors Framework as the

Re: About name change

2010-08-30 Thread Matt Weber
Why not just stick with Apache Connector Framework? After all, that is exactly what this is... a connector framework. It has a short and simple acronym, ACF, and best of all requires no additional effort, no refactoring, no website updates, etc! Just my $0.02, not that it really matters --

Re: About name change

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Miller
On 8/30/10 5:20 PM, Karl Wright wrote: I'm not going to go head-to-head with you trying to split hairs. ;-) Can we agree that something like ContentCF is a possibility under your guidelines? (I'm not proposing that, I'm just trying to open the field up a bit.) Karl From my end, most of