Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name

2010-08-31 Thread Matt Weber
Don't know if this is an open vote... but if it is:

Apache Connectors Framework
Apache Yukon
Apache Manifold


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 3:58 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Apache Manifold
 Apache Connectors Framework
 Apache Yukon

 - mark

 On 8/31/10 6:54 PM, Karl Wright wrote:
 My preferences:

 Apache Connectors Framework
 Apache Manifold
 Apache Acromantula

 Karl

 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list
 with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project currently
 known as Apache Connectors Framework.  The choices
 are:

 Apache Connectors Framework
 Apache Acromantula
 Apache Manifold
 Apache ManifoldCF
 Apache Multiplex
 Apache Lucon
 Apache Lukon
 Apache Yukon
 Apache Macon
 Apache Omni
 Apache Omnivore
 Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
 Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )

 I don't think I missed any?  If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)

 Karl









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Re: About name change

2010-08-30 Thread Matt Weber
Why not just stick with Apache Connector Framework?  After all, that
is exactly what this is... a connector framework.  It has a short and
simple acronym, ACF, and best of all requires no additional effort, no
refactoring, no website updates, etc!  Just my $0.02, not that it
really matters

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 2:20 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not going to go head-to-head with you trying to split hairs. ;-)
 Can we agree that something like ContentCF is a possibility under your
 guidelines?  (I'm not proposing that, I'm just trying to open the field up a
 bit.)

 Karl

 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Heh - only with an extremely liberal definition of multiword. The list
 really speaks for itself here.

  (I'm not including commons or jakarta in this, because they are multiple
  projects)
 

 They are each a single top level project with many sub projects.

 On 8/30/10 5:06 PM, Karl Wright wrote:
  Ok, let's do a count.
 
  Single word: 49
  Multiword: 26
 
  (I'm not including commons or jakarta in this, because they are multiple
  projects)
 
  Karl
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Right - mashed together into one word - not multiple words. And if you
  look, it's not even a 'lot' without the bold around it ;)
 
  On 8/30/10 4:50 PM, Karl Wright wrote:
  TrafficServer?  OpenWebBeans? XMLBeans?  There are actually a *lot* of
  names
  that are multiple words.  They're just mashed together. ;-)
 
  Karl
 
  On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  On 8/30/10 1:37 PM, Karl Wright wrote:
  snip - Consider using functional names, especially for products of
  existing
  projects, e.g. for an Apache Foo project, the product name Apache
  Foo
  Pipelines. -snip
 
  Granted, Lucene Connectors Framework fills this to a T, but this
  would
  imply that functional names are OK for top-level projects too.
 
  FYI, these are listed as guidelines, so I don't think they are meant
 to
  determine what is OK or not. A guideline is by definition not
 mandatory.
 
  It would seem to me that the reason this is emphasized for subprojects
  of foo even more so than foo, is that foo will already be a unique
  simple abstract name. After you have that, it's best to be descriptive
  for sub projects. If you don't have a unique simple abstract
 'component'
  of the name for a top level project, many of the other guidelines are
  not met very well.
 
  Below are some current Apache project names - you start to see a
 pattern
  - notice that most of them will be the top hit on google using simply
  the name (yes, including ant, tiles and felix surprisingly ;) ). This
  isn't always the case of course - many different historical issues
  factor into these names - but as you can see - even just more than one
  word for the name is extremely uncommon.
 
  HTTP Server
  Abdera
  ActiveMQ
  Ant
  APR
  Archiva
  Avro
  Buildr
  Camel
  Cassandra
  Cayenne
  Click
  Cocoon
  Commons
  Continuum
  CouchDB
  CXF
  DB
  Directory
  Excalibur
  Felix
  Forrest
  Geronimo
  Gump
  Hadoop
  Harmony
  HBase
  HttpComponents
  Jackrabbit
  Jakarta
  James
  Lenya
  Logging
  Lucene
  Mahout
  Maven
  Mina
  MyFaces
  Nutch
  ODE
  OFBiz
  OpenEJB
  OpenJPA
  OpenWebBeans
  PDFBox
  Perl
  Pivot
  POI
  Portals
  Qpid
  Roller
  Santuario
  ServiceMix
  Shindig
  Sling
  SpamAssassin
  STDCXX
  Struts
  Subversion
  Synapse
  Tapestry
  Tika
  TCL
  Tiles
  Tomcat
  TrafficServer
  Turbine
  Tuscany
  UIMA
  Velocity
  Wicket
  Web Services
  Xalan
  Xerces
  XML
  XMLBeans
  XML Graphics
 
 
  Karl
 
  On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  On 8/30/10 1:05 PM, Karl Wright wrote:
 
  I'm not too keen on just a simple abstract name - too meaningless
 for
  me.
 
  It works for countless Apache projects (that's really the standard)
 -
  not really buying it would be a problem here.
 
  Also, I havn't been following closely, so if someone hasn't pointed
 it
  out yet, fyi on some recommendations:
  http://www.apache.org/dev/project-names.html
 
  - Mark
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 






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