Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-20 Thread Duncan
On Sun 15 Jun 2003 11:11, Olivier Blin posted as excerpted below: > > No, it doesn't. What Han is asking for is this. Say you installed foo > > and urpmi pulled in libbar and libmoo as things foo depended on. If you > > then urpme foo, libbar and libmoo don't get uninstalled. If, however, > > you u

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-17 Thread François Pons
andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Monday 16 June 2003 11:18, François Pons wrote: > > Another problably good approach would be using compssUsers file, as no lib > > package are listed as only effective packages (for the user) are inside it. > > > > François. > What about lib$something-devel a

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-16 Thread andre
On Monday 16 June 2003 11:18, François Pons wrote: > Another problably good approach would be using compssUsers file, as no lib > package are listed as only effective packages (for the user) are inside it. > > François. What about lib$something-devel and pygnome-libglade

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-16 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On 16 Jun 2003, [iso-8859-15] François Pons wrote: > Stefan van der Eijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Dependency example: > > A Requires B > > B Requires C > > B Requires D > > C Requires D > > E Requires D > > > > urpme A would also suggest to remove B? > > urpme A would also suggest to remo

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-16 Thread Han Boetes
Olivier Blin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, it doesn't. What Han is asking for is this. Say you installed foo > > and urpmi pulled in libbar and libmoo as things foo depended on. If you > > then urpme foo, libbar and libmoo don't get uninstalled. If, however, > > you urpme'd libbar, foo *would*

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-16 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
> Stefan van der Eijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Yes. Assuming that when a package starts with "lib" that it's an >> intermidiate package may be correct. Any examples that prove the >> contrary? > > Another problably good approach would be using compssUsers file, as no > lib package are liste

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-16 Thread François Pons
Stefan van der Eijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes. Assuming that when a package starts with "lib" that it's an intermidiate > package may be correct. Any examples that prove the contrary? Another problably good approach would be using compssUsers file, as no lib package are listed as only eff

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-16 Thread François Pons
Stefan van der Eijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yep. So you would like a switch / option to be added that when you remove foo > (urpme foo --something) that it'll suggest to remove libbar and libmoo as wel. > Hmmm... Interesting. What critera will be used to remove those packages? Should > start

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-16 Thread François Pons
Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 18:50, Steve Fox wrote: > > > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 11:24, Han Boetes wrote: > > > > Feature request: when you install a package you often need other > > > > packages to be installed as we

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-15 Thread Luis Ortega
--- Charles Shirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 15 June 2003 19:36, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Of course we could, but do we want to? The whole > point of this change, > > it seems to me, is to be more elegant, and yanking > out libraries a user > > is relying on and expecting them to r

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-15 Thread Charles Shirley
On Sunday 15 June 2003 19:36, Adam Williamson wrote: > Of course we could, but do we want to? The whole point of this change, > it seems to me, is to be more elegant, and yanking out libraries a user > is relying on and expecting them to reinstall them manually does not > strike me as being that.

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 22:31, Charles Shirley wrote: > On Sunday 15 June 2003 14:42, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 19:11, Olivier Blin wrote: > > > > No, it doesn't. What Han is asking for is this. Say you installed foo > > > > and urpmi pulled in libbar and libmoo as things foo d

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-15 Thread Charles Shirley
On Sunday 15 June 2003 14:42, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 19:11, Olivier Blin wrote: > > > No, it doesn't. What Han is asking for is this. Say you installed foo > > > and urpmi pulled in libbar and libmoo as things foo depended on. If you > > > then urpme foo, libbar and libmoo d

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 19:11, Olivier Blin wrote: > > No, it doesn't. What Han is asking for is this. Say you installed foo > > and urpmi pulled in libbar and libmoo as things foo depended on. If you > > then urpme foo, libbar and libmoo don't get uninstalled. If, however, > > you urpme'd libbar, fo

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-15 Thread Olivier Blin
> No, it doesn't. What Han is asking for is this. Say you installed foo > and urpmi pulled in libbar and libmoo as things foo depended on. If you > then urpme foo, libbar and libmoo don't get uninstalled. If, however, > you urpme'd libbar, foo *would* be uninstalled. That is, urpme > uninstalls thi

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-14 Thread Thibaut Fernagut
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-14 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
Another flaw with the log file idea is that some users install packages with the rpm tool. Unless you patched the Mandrake version of rpm, these wouldn't get appended to the log file. In my opinion, urpme, when asked to remove a package, should look through each of it's dependencies, check they'r

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-14 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
On Saturday 14 June 2003 09:07 am, David Sansome wrote: > On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 12:21 pm, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > > >>>You suggesting to calculate it. These calculations can become very > > >>>complex. I would suggest to make a log. So if you urpmi foo, you also > > >>>have to install bar an

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-14 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
Another flaw with the log file idea is that some users install packages with the rpm tool. Unless you patched the Mandrake version of rpm, these wouldn't get appended to the log file. Indeed. I propose not to persue the logfile track. In my opinion, urpme, when asked to remove a package, shou

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-14 Thread David Sansome
On Saturday 14 Jun 2003 12:21 pm, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > >>>You suggesting to calculate it. These calculations can become very > >>>complex. I would suggest to make a log. So if you urpmi foo, you also > >>>have to install bar and blah. This results in a line in > >>>/var/cache/urpmi/installl

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-14 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
You suggesting to calculate it. These calculations can become very complex. I would suggest to make a log. So if you urpmi foo, you also have to install bar and blah. This results in a line in /var/cache/urpmi/installlog: foo bar blah Q: What would the impact be if you install multiple pack

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-14 Thread bgmilne
>>You suggesting to calculate it. These calculations can become very >> complex. I would suggest to make a log. So if you urpmi foo, you also >> have to install bar and blah. This results in a line in >>/var/cache/urpmi/installlog: foo bar blah >> > Q: What would the impact be if you install multi

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-14 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
If, however, you urpme'd libbar, foo *would* be uninstalled. That is, urpme uninstalls things that depend on the package you call to be urpme'd, but not things the package you call to be urpme'd depends upon. Clear? Yep. So you would like a switch / option to be added that when you remove f

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-13 Thread Han Boetes
Stefan van der Eijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If, however, you urpme'd libbar, foo *would* be uninstalled. That > > is, urpme uninstalls things that depend on the package you call to > > be urpme'd, but not things the package you call to be urpme'd > > depends upon. Clear? > > Yep. So you wo

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 23:12, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: > >>>Feature request: when you install a package you often need other > >>>packages to be installed as well. Could you make a list of those > >>>dependant extra installed packages? So if peope uninstall the first > >>>package you can also dein

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-13 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
Feature request: when you install a package you often need other packages to be installed as well. Could you make a list of those dependant extra installed packages? So if peope uninstall the first package you can also deinstall the packages it depended on. Of course only if no other packages depe

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-13 Thread Han Boetes
Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 18:50, Steve Fox wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 11:24, Han Boetes wrote: > > > Feature request: when you install a package you often need other > > > packages to be installed as well. Could you make a list of those > > > dependant

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 18:50, Steve Fox wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 11:24, Han Boetes wrote: > > Feature request: when you install a package you often need other > > packages to be installed as well. Could you make a list of those > > dependant extra installed packages? So if peope uninstall the

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-13 Thread François Pons
Steve Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 11:24, Han Boetes wrote: > > Feature request: when you install a package you often need other > > packages to be installed as well. Could you make a list of those > > dependant extra installed packages? So if peope uninstall the first >

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-13 Thread Steve Fox
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 11:24, Han Boetes wrote: > Feature request: when you install a package you often need other > packages to be installed as well. Could you make a list of those > dependant extra installed packages? So if peope uninstall the first > package you can also deinstall the packages it

[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-4.3-15mdk

2003-06-13 Thread Han Boetes
François Pons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Name: urpmi Feature request: when you install a package you often need other packages to be installed as well. Could you make a list of those dependant extra installed packages? So if peope uninstall the first package you can also deinstall the pa