Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-31 Thread SI Reasoning
--- "J.A. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 20020131 SI Reasoning wrote: > >I disagree, > >first, this is a major problem as it completely > >freezes the box and it has to be turned off > manually. > > > > OK > > >second, when you release a distribution it needs to > be > >able to r

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-31 Thread Ben Reser
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 12:14:49AM -0800, Ben Reser wrote: > Plug in a external laptop. I meant keyboard. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of tota

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-31 Thread Ben Reser
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 12:00:07AM -0800, SI Reasoning wrote: > Suspend has always locked mine up also. However with > APIC it also locks up with the ones I mentioned below. > This is particularly troublesome because of how close > the Ctrl and Fn keys are. When doing general desktop > switching,

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread J.A. Magallon
On 20020131 SI Reasoning wrote: >I disagree, >first, this is a major problem as it completely >freezes the box and it has to be turned off manually. > OK >second, when you release a distribution it needs to be >able to run on as many boxes as possible without major >crashes, if you can turn of

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning
Suspend has always locked mine up also. However with APIC it also locks up with the ones I mentioned below. This is particularly troublesome because of how close the Ctrl and Fn keys are. When doing general desktop switching, a simple keystroke mistake can hard freeze the laptop now. --- Ben Rese

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning
--- tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SI Reasoning wrote: > > > --- tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Do you have any idea how many people submitted bug > >>reports bexcause APIC > >>was off and their machines would not boot the > >>installer? Almost > >>everyone with multiprocesso

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread Ben Reser
On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 07:38:30PM -0800, SI Reasoning wrote: > On the dell laptop the Fn key is right besides the > Ctrl key, Fn + F1 = Bios Setup( or freeze with APIC), > FN + Esc = Suspend, Fn + F3 = battery display... all > of these freeze when hit and it is not that uncommon > for a finger to

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread tester
SI Reasoning wrote: > --- tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Do you have any idea how many people submitted bug >>reports bexcause APIC >>was off and their machines would not boot the >>installer? Almost >>everyone with multiprocessors and more than 2 IDE >>channels. >> >>Obviously we are

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning
--- tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you have any idea how many people submitted bug > reports bexcause APIC > was off and their machines would not boot the > installer? Almost > everyone with multiprocessors and more than 2 IDE > channels. > > Obviously we are trying to see what the

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning
> > Do you have any idea how many people submitted bug > reports bexcause APIC > was off and their machines would not boot the > installer? Almost > everyone with multiprocessors and more than 2 IDE > channels. > > Obviously we are trying to see what the effects are > each way, and there >

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread tester
SI Reasoning wrote: > --- Neuromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Thus spake SI Reasoning about Life, the Universe, >>and Everything: >>| I disagree, >>| first, this is a major problem as it completely >>| freezes the box and it has to be turned off >>manually. >> >>Then turn it off manually

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning
--- Neuromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thus spake SI Reasoning about Life, the Universe, > and Everything: > | I disagree, > | first, this is a major problem as it completely > | freezes the box and it has to be turned off > manually. > > Then turn it off manually. You misunderstand, I ha

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning
--- Neuromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thus spake SI Reasoning about Life, the Universe, > and Everything: > | I disagree, > | first, this is a major problem as it completely > | freezes the box and it has to be turned off > manually. > > Then turn it off manually. To do that would requir

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning
one more thing... append=noapic will not disable the part that crashes, unfortunately. --- SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I disagree, > first, this is a major problem as it completely > freezes the box and it has to be turned off > manually. > > second, when you release a distributio

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning
I disagree, first, this is a major problem as it completely freezes the box and it has to be turned off manually. second, when you release a distribution it needs to be able to run on as many boxes as possible without major crashes, if you can turn off an item and it creates more stable boxes, t

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread J.A. Magallon
On 20020130 SI Reasoning wrote: >APIC is still enabled in 2.4.17-12. >--- SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I am still having problems with my Dell Inspiron >> 8000 >> that are APIC related. Please disable it in the >> production kernel. I am currently running >> 2.4.17-11mdk. >> So wh

Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning
APIC is still enabled in 2.4.17-12. --- SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am still having problems with my Dell Inspiron > 8000 > that are APIC related. Please disable it in the > production kernel. I am currently running > 2.4.17-11mdk. > > = > SI Reasoning > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "T