linearizability gets you? I have not seen anything promising in this
direction. Whoever makes this breakthrough will surely reap the
world's recognition and respect.
/Roman
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In that case I
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I see it differently. The issue is ordering - the inability of non-TSO
platforms enforce total order of independent stores. The first loads are
also independent and their ordering can
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Yes,
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Is the thorn the many allowe
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Yes, I do understand the reader needs barriers, too. I guess I was
wondering more why the reader would need something stronger than what
dependencies etc could enforce. I guess I'll read what Martin forw
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On 26/11/2014
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Is the thorn the ma
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To be concrete here, on
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Oleksandr Otenko
wrote:
> On 26/11/2014 02:04, Hans Boehm wrote:
>>
>> To be concrete here, on Power, loads can normally be ordered by an address
>> dependency or light-weight fence (lwsync). However, neither is enough to
>> prevent the questionable outcome for IR
On 26/11/2014 02:04, Hans Boehm wrote:
To be concrete here, on Power, loads can normally be ordered by an
address dependency or light-weight fence (lwsync). However, neither
is enough to prevent the questionable outcome for IRIW, since it
doesn't ensure that the stores in T1 and T2 will be mad
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Can you expand on that please. All previous discussion of IRIW I have
seen indicated that the property, while a consequence of existing JMM
rules, had no practical use.
T
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> *Subject:* Re: [concurrency-interest] RFR: 8065804:
> JEP171:Clarifications/corrections for fence intrinsics
>
> To be concrete here, on Power, loads can normally be ordered b
To be concrete here, on Power, loads can normally be ordered by an address
dependency or light-weight fence (lwsync). However, neither is enough to
prevent the questionable outcome for IRIW, since it doesn't ensure that the
stores in T1 and T2 will be made visible to other threads in a consistent
November 2014 6:49 PM
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Subject: RE: [concurrency-interest] RFR:
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There is no conceivable way to kill IRIW consistency requirement while
retaining
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Subject: Re: [concurrency-interest] RFR: 8065804:
JEP171:Clarifications/corrections for
Stephan Diestelhorst writes:
>
> David Holmes wrote:
> > Stephan Diestelhorst writes:
> > > Am Dienstag, 25. November 2014, 11:15:36 schrieb Hans Boehm:
> > > > I'm no hardware architect, but fundamentally it seems to me that
> > > >
> > > > load x
> > > > acquire_fence
> > > >
> > > > imposes a mu
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