Re: JEP 187: Serialization 2.0

2014-12-30 Thread Stephen Colebourne
I've checked the bug database [1], JEPs list [2] and Google but this JEP appears to have disappeared. Can this be confirmed? Stephen [1] https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/issues/?jql=issuetype%20%3D%20JEP [2] http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/0 On 13 February 2014 at 11:05, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 01/

Re: JEP 187: Serialization 2.0

2014-02-13 Thread Florian Weimer
On 01/23/2014 03:30 PM, Chris Hegarty wrote: On 22 Jan 2014, at 15:14, Florian Weimer wrote: On 01/22/2014 03:47 PM, Chris Hegarty wrote: On 22/01/14 13:57, Florian Weimer wrote: On 01/14/2014 01:26 AM, mark.reinh...@oracle.com wrote: Posted: http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/187 There's anoth

Re: JEP 187: Serialization 2.0 & Serialization-aware constructors

2014-01-30 Thread Robert Stupp
Am 22.01.2014 um 17:33 schrieb "David M. Lloyd" : > The concept of explicit deserialization constructors is interesting and is > something I've explored a little bit in the context of JBoss Marshalling. ... > The idea with a serialization-aware constructor is that each serializable > class cons

Re: JEP 187: Serialization 2.0 & Serialization-aware constructors

2014-01-23 Thread Chris Hegarty
Hi David, This is a nice summary of how object deserialization is working today, and some interesting ideas around serialisation-aware constructors. It seems there is just too much magic in the construction of deserialized objects. All the field values required to fully construct the object are

Re: JEP 187: Serialization 2.0

2014-01-23 Thread Chris Hegarty
On 22 Jan 2014, at 15:14, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 01/22/2014 03:47 PM, Chris Hegarty wrote: >> On 22/01/14 13:57, Florian Weimer wrote: >>> On 01/14/2014 01:26 AM, mark.reinh...@oracle.com wrote: Posted: http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/187 >>> >>> There's another aspect of the current appro

Aw: JEP 187: Serialization 2.0 & Serialization-aware constructors

2014-01-22 Thread Robert Stupp
Am 22.01.2014 um 17:33 schrieb "David M. Lloyd" : > The concept of explicit deserialization constructors is interesting and is > something I've explored a little bit in the context of JBoss Marshalling. ... > The idea with a serialization-aware constructor is that each serializable > class const

Re: JEP 187: Serialization 2.0 & Serialization-aware constructors

2014-01-22 Thread David M. Lloyd
On 01/13/2014 06:26 PM, mark.reinh...@oracle.com wrote: Posted: http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/187 The concept of explicit deserialization constructors is interesting and is something I've explored a little bit in the context of JBoss Marshalling. The way construction works today (simple versi

Re: JEP 187: Serialization 2.0

2014-01-22 Thread Florian Weimer
On 01/22/2014 03:47 PM, Chris Hegarty wrote: On 22/01/14 13:57, Florian Weimer wrote: On 01/14/2014 01:26 AM, mark.reinh...@oracle.com wrote: Posted: http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/187 There's another aspect of the current approach to serialization that is not mentioned: the type information do

Re: JEP 187: Serialization 2.0

2014-01-22 Thread Chris Hegarty
On 22/01/14 13:57, Florian Weimer wrote: On 01/14/2014 01:26 AM, mark.reinh...@oracle.com wrote: Posted: http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/187 There's another aspect of the current approach to serialization that is not mentioned: the type information does not come from the calling context, but excl

Re: JEP 187: Serialization 2.0

2014-01-22 Thread Florian Weimer
On 01/14/2014 01:26 AM, mark.reinh...@oracle.com wrote: Posted: http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/187 There's another aspect of the current approach to serialization that is not mentioned: the type information does not come from the calling context, but exclusively from the input stream. This mea

JEP 187: Serialization 2.0

2014-01-13 Thread mark . reinhold
Posted: http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/187 - Mark