Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-22 Thread Phil Race
On 2/22/2011 3:51 PM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: On 22 February 2011 17:26, Phil Race wrote: We believe LCMS 2.0 should pass JCK, but I don't know if a full JCK run has been performed against a fully open 7 build since it went in. A 6-open backport would find any problems there. I wasn't a

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-22 Thread Dr Andrew John Hughes
On 22 February 2011 17:26, Phil Race wrote: > On 2/20/2011 9:39 AM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: >> >> On 15 February 2011 20:23, Phil Race  wrote: >>> >>> On 2/15/2011 6:07 AM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: Yes, IcedTea uses system libraries for everything bar LCMS, where local chan

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-22 Thread Phil Race
On 2/20/2011 9:39 AM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: On 15 February 2011 20:23, Phil Race wrote: On 2/15/2011 6:07 AM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: Yes, IcedTea uses system libraries for everything bar LCMS, where local changes in OpenJDK mean we are still forced to use the in-tree version. The

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-20 Thread Dr Andrew John Hughes
On 15 February 2011 20:23, Phil Race wrote: > On 2/15/2011 6:07 AM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: >> >> Yes, IcedTea uses system libraries for everything bar LCMS, where >> local changes in OpenJDK mean we are still forced to use the in-tree >> version.  There hasn't been any success upstreaming th

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-18 Thread Alan Bateman
Steve Poole wrote: : Running zlibs own tests is unlikely to be too helpful. I'd be quite happy to run any JDK tests you have and there are also testcases in Apache Harmony for the related Java APIs. I'm curious to understand just what level of testing is already done though? I wasn't clear

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-18 Thread Steve Poole
On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 10:20 +, Alan Bateman wrote: > Steve Poole wrote: > > : > > What sort of testing did you have in mind? You mean run the zlib tests > > and/or OpenJDK testcases? > > > To be honest, I don't know. The zip tests should clearly be run but they > are unlikely to stress th

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-17 Thread Alan Bateman
Steve Poole wrote: : What sort of testing did you have in mind? You mean run the zlib tests and/or OpenJDK testcases? To be honest, I don't know. The zip tests should clearly be run but they are unlikely to stress the zip code in the same way that the IDEs, app servers, and other big appli

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-16 Thread Steve Poole
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 12:53 +, Alan Bateman wrote: > Steve Poole wrote: > > : > > I can appreciate why you want to be cautious right now - but it is > > important that the codebase is regularly upgraded. If IcedTea have shown > > that 1.2.5 is "ok" then I'd say the risk is quite low. > > > >

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Bateman
Steve Poole wrote: : I can appreciate why you want to be cautious right now - but it is important that the codebase is regularly upgraded. If IcedTea have shown that 1.2.5 is "ok" then I'd say the risk is quite low. For JDK 8 it would make sense to discuss the pros and cons of relying on the

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-16 Thread Steve Poole
On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 09:17 -0800, Xueming Shen wrote: > One of the benefits of using a 5-year old version is that it has been > thoroughly tested by > various software for 5 years, given we actually don't have lots of tests > for zlib ourself, this > is very important, at least for me, when cons

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-15 Thread Phil Race
On 2/15/2011 6:07 AM, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: Yes, IcedTea uses system libraries for everything bar LCMS, where local changes in OpenJDK mean we are still forced to use the in-tree version. There hasn't been any success upstreaming these changes, though I haven't looked at LCMS 2.x. L

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-15 Thread Xueming Shen
One of the benefits of using a 5-year old version is that it has been thoroughly tested by various software for 5 years, given we actually don't have lots of tests for zlib ourself, this is very important, at least for me, when considering upgrade, especially at this late stage of the release I

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-15 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Andrew John Hughes: > >> So yes, that means we use the system zlib (currently 1.2.5 here), jpeg >> (8c) and png (1.4.5).  1.10 will also finally remove the static >> linking of libstdc++ and libgcc.  This was done back in the early days >>

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Andrew John Hughes: > So yes, that means we use the system zlib (currently 1.2.5 here), jpeg > (8c) and png (1.4.5). 1.10 will also finally remove the static > linking of libstdc++ and libgcc. This was done back in the early days > of IcedTea as part of preparing OpenJDK for distro packaging,

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-15 Thread Dr Andrew John Hughes
On 15 February 2011 13:57, Alan Bateman wrote: > Steve Poole wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> JDK7 is using zlib 1.2.3 (which was added to JDK7 back in 2009.) >> Zlib's latest version is 1.2.5 - is there any expectation to move to >> 1.2.5 in JDK7?   It seems a real shame to ship JDK7 with a version of >>

Re: Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-15 Thread Alan Bateman
Steve Poole wrote: Hi all, JDK7 is using zlib 1.2.3 (which was added to JDK7 back in 2009.) Zlib's latest version is 1.2.5 - is there any expectation to move to 1.2.5 in JDK7? It seems a real shame to ship JDK7 with a version of zlib that is so out of date. More than happy to help cont

Zlib level in JDK7

2011-02-15 Thread Steve Poole
Hi all, JDK7 is using zlib 1.2.3 (which was added to JDK7 back in 2009.) Zlib's latest version is 1.2.5 - is there any expectation to move to 1.2.5 in JDK7? It seems a real shame to ship JDK7 with a version of zlib that is so out of date. More than happy to help contribute towards making