Re: [coreboot] [flashrom] flashrom-related GSoC 2014 project

2014-03-25 Thread Stefan Tauner
Marc Jones has replied to my GSoC proposals but I really dislike having conversations on the GSoC website and because we will probably need to discuss more than just a few corrections, I'll reply here. The first proposal is about the end user tool: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/revie

Re: [coreboot] Miniboot

2014-03-25 Thread The Gluglug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --> alternatively: ship coreboot without anything in src/mainboard. have git repositories for each vendor/mainboard. user downloads what they need, and a default .config for the board of their choosing. On 25/03/14 23:29, The Gluglug wrote: > This i

[coreboot] Miniboot

2014-03-25 Thread The Gluglug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is focussed on users (non-developers). Most coreboot users only have perhaps a few machines that they are building for. Maybe even just one. Yet they are downloading the entire coreboot source tree and selecting which board they want, configurin

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop

2014-03-25 Thread mrnuke
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 02:14:12 PM ron minnich wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:26 PM, David Hendricks wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:17 PM, mrnuke wrote: > >> On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:03:28 PM David Hendricks wrote: > >> > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:57 AM, mrnuke wrote: > >> Co

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop

2014-03-25 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:26 PM, David Hendricks wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:17 PM, mrnuke wrote: > >> On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:03:28 PM David Hendricks wrote: >> > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:57 AM, mrnuke wrote: >> >> I'm assuming BLO is not persistent. >> > > It's been a while sin

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop

2014-03-25 Thread David Hendricks
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:17 PM, mrnuke wrote: > On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:03:28 PM David Hendricks wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:57 AM, mrnuke wrote: > > > On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:53:51 AM ron minnich wrote: > > > > Just one thing. Don't underestimate just how miserable the E

Re: [coreboot] Changes to the coreboot Project Structure

2014-03-25 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* mrnuke [140325 19:13]: > On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 06:56:13 PM Stefan Reinauer wrote: > > * ron minnich [140325 06:34]: > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Vladimir ' -coder/phcoder' Serbinenko < > > > > > > phco...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I don't see how this prevents any of my propo

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop

2014-03-25 Thread mrnuke
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:03:28 PM David Hendricks wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:57 AM, mrnuke wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:53:51 AM ron minnich wrote: > > > Just one thing. Don't underestimate just how miserable the EC can make > > > your life. I place a high premium on syst

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop

2014-03-25 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:09 PM, mrnuke wrote: > > There's already been more action in the last few days than in the last few > years. We've rounded up a first batch of candidates, got interested people > pledging coding effort, and even a pledge for financial support. We got > some > of the lib

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop

2014-03-25 Thread mrnuke
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 07:51:33 PM Stefan Reinauer wrote: > * mrnuke [140325 08:37]: > > > > a branch containing that hash is not available publicly. > > > > > > Baloney. Your not finding it does not mean it's not available. It means > > > you didn't look hard enough. > > > > I call baloney

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop

2014-03-25 Thread David Hendricks
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:57 AM, mrnuke wrote: > On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:53:51 AM ron minnich wrote: > > Just one thing. Don't underestimate just how miserable the EC can make > your > > life. I place a high premium on systems > > with an open EC. Just be careful there. > > > Can you tell

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop (was: Expectations, project direction and interest of contributors)

2014-03-25 Thread Patrick Georgi
Am Dienstag, den 25.03.2014, 19:51 +0100 schrieb Stefan Reinauer: > * mrnuke [140325 08:37]: > > out of there, and run cbfstool to extract the .config in order to find out > > I'm > > running coreboot commit ff1f4757e4bd35a6b72018d0982b5e2bec89a1bb > https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop (was: Expectations, project direction and interest of contributors)

2014-03-25 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* mrnuke [140325 08:37]: > > > a branch containing that hash is not available publicly. > > > > Baloney. Your not finding it does not mean it's not available. It means you > > didn't look hard enough. > > > I call baloney on this one. I do not have to "look hard enough". Section 3 > defines how

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop (was: Expectations, project direction and interest of contributors)

2014-03-25 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* mrnuke [140325 05:10]: > * For example, a hardwired boot blob which has been RE'd so that we know > what > it does and how it does it, would be acceptable (see Allwinner). Even the > FSF, > according to RMS's own essays considers this to essentially be hardware. > * A non-ISA (a) firmware

Re: [coreboot] Changes to the coreboot Project Structure

2014-03-25 Thread mrnuke
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 06:56:13 PM Stefan Reinauer wrote: > * ron minnich [140325 06:34]: > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Vladimir ' -coder/phcoder' Serbinenko < > > > > phco...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't see how this prevents any of my propositions for the bulk of > > the bo

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop

2014-03-25 Thread mrnuke
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:53:51 AM ron minnich wrote: > Just one thing. Don't underestimate just how miserable the EC can make your > life. I place a high premium on systems > with an open EC. Just be careful there. > Can you tell us more about the Samsung Chromebook 2? Alex -- coreboot ma

Re: [coreboot] Changes to the coreboot Project Structure

2014-03-25 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* ron minnich [140325 06:34]: > > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Vladimir ' -coder/phcoder' Serbinenko < > phco...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I don't see how this prevents any of my propositions for the bulk of the > boards. The problem you describe isn't going away with your prop

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop

2014-03-25 Thread ron minnich
Just one thing. Don't underestimate just how miserable the EC can make your life. I place a high premium on systems with an open EC. Just be careful there. ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop

2014-03-25 Thread mrnuke
On Monday, March 24, 2014 10:36:27 PM David Hendricks wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:10 PM, mrnuke wrote: > > Chose the hardware. Set up a github temporary fork. Send me the hardware. > > I got Pomona, I got SPI, I got USB debug, and I got the burning desire to > > make this happen. > > I lik

Re: [coreboot] Expectations, project direction and interest of contributors

2014-03-25 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Kyösti Mälkki wrote: > > > coreboot- Mon Apr 29 15:07:52 PDT 2013 starting... > > > That is, it appears the revision information seems to be intentionally > wiped from the string logged in CBMEM console there. That's a heck of an assumption. You did not see it

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop

2014-03-25 Thread David Hendricks
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:05 AM, Paul Menzel < paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Am Montag, den 24.03.2014, 22:36 -0700 schrieb David Hendricks: > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:10 PM, mrnuke wrote: > > > > > Chose the hardware. Set up a github temporary fork. Send me the > hardware. I > >

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Montag, den 24.03.2014, 22:36 -0700 schrieb David Hendricks: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:10 PM, mrnuke wrote: > > > Chose the hardware. Set up a github temporary fork. Send me the hardware. I > > got Pomona, I got SPI, I got USB debug, and I got the burning desire to > > make this happen. > >

Re: [coreboot] libpayload for ARM with sprinklings of GPL and coreboot code sharing

2014-03-25 Thread Patrick Georgi
Am 2014-03-25 05:36, schrieb Stefan Reinauer: Is there any single BSD licensed payload out there? That's using libpayload? The work around of stuffing drivers into depthcharge is really, really unfortunate because it causes unnecessary duplication I think I (and you) ported some libpayload code i

Re: [coreboot] A new, modern coreboot long-term support laptop (was: Expectations, project direction and interest of contributors)

2014-03-25 Thread mrnuke
On Monday, March 24, 2014 10:31:49 PM ron minnich wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:10 PM, mrnuke wrote: > > * For example, a hardwired boot blob which has been RE'd so that we know > > what it does and how it does it, would be acceptable (see Allwinner). > > Hard for me to agree with this, but