On 23/03/2018, Thierry Laurion wrote:
> If ... ME is disabled with its modules erased, could
> the maker pursue the seller for having made those modifications?
Interesting question. ThinkPenguin seems to be willing to take that
risk, but hedges it by voiding the warranty:
"Backdoors in modern co
On Sun, March 25, 2018 3:21 pm, thierry.laur...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 03/23/2018 05:22 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
>
>> Please also keep in mind that it is impossible to disable ME.
>>
> That is not a binary yes/no fact.
>
>
> Depending of the ME version, it is possible to deactivate it.
> The follo
Le dim. 25 mars 2018 14:08, taii...@gmx.com a écrit :
> On 03/25/2018 11:12 AM, thierry.laur...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > For the KGPE-D16, an integration effort was made in Heads to support
> > such board.
> >
> > https://github.com/osresearch/heads/issues/134
> >
> > * OpenBMC support merged int
On 03/24/2018 09:21 AM, Alberto Bursi wrote:
> I was writing within context of this mail thread.
>
> This mail "thread" is about Coreboot on server systems, and no major
> manufacturer I know of, apart from IBM and the board from Raptor
> Engineering ever used Coreboot on server systems, so yeah
On 03/25/2018 11:12 AM, thierry.laur...@gmail.com wrote:
> For the KGPE-D16, an integration effort was made in Heads to support
> such board.
>
> https://github.com/osresearch/heads/issues/134
>
> * OpenBMC support merged into coreboot so the server can boot
> * Flashrom support to flash OpenB
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 6:22 AM Alberto Bursi
wrote:
> I was writing within context of this mail thread.
>
> This mail "thread" is about Coreboot on server systems, and no major
> manufacturer I know of, apart from IBM and the board from Raptor
> Engineering ever used Coreboot on server systems,
Sorry for the previous mistypings. Redoing this mail properly.
On 03/24/2018 07:41 PM, Thierry Laurion wrote:
> Hi all, > > Le ven. 23 mars 2018 13:56, mailto:tpear...@raptorengineering.com>> a écrit : > > I am not a
lawyer, but have some understanding of the relevant liability > law.
This is not
On 03/23/2018 05:22 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> Please also keep in mind that it is impossible to disable ME.
That is not a binary yes/no fact.
Depending of the ME version, it is possible to deactivate it.
The following x230 is not a server, but an example for older ME versions.
The resulting ME
t want a libre motherboard, Talos is the best you can get.
>
> On 18-01-17 12:00:01, coreboot-requ...@coreboot.org wrote:
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:29:18 +0100
>> From: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
>> To: Coreboot
>> Subject: [coreboot] Server syst
Hi all,
Le ven. 23 mars 2018 13:56, a écrit :
> I am not a lawyer, but have some understanding of the relevant liability
> law. This is not legal advice.
>
> If damage is cause to the hardware that the ME would have prevented, very
> likely.
Damage orevrntrd by ME?
Same goes for any security
I was writing within context of this mail thread.
This mail "thread" is about Coreboot on server systems, and no major
manufacturer I know of, apart from IBM and the board from Raptor
Engineering ever used Coreboot on server systems, so yeah, on server
boards it is nearly always retrofitted by
It IS lying if you don't tell them you installed Coreboot and pretend
the issue happened with UEFI.
Also, manufacturer warranty does not cover damage done by the user, and
flashing a third party firmware is usually enough to claim whatever
happens to it afterwards it's your fault.
In general, a
On 23.03.2018 22:37, Alberto Bursi wrote:
> I wanted to say what I said.
> Dell, HP, Supermicro, Tyan, and whatever other OEM making commercial
> servers I know of
> is highly unlikely to accept a RMA or provide any support on their
> hardware if you install Coreboot.
What I was trying to tell y
On 03/23/2018 06:33 PM, Alberto Bursi wrote:
> Yeah, getting an RMA isn't hard if you just lie. Won't work for non-RMA
> support requests though.
It isn't lying if OEM never stated pre-purchase that you aren't allowed
to flash your own firmware.
It is the same as how many laptop OEM's want you to
Yeah, getting an RMA isn't hard if you just lie. Won't work for non-RMA
support requests though.
-Alberto
On 03/23/2018 10:43 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> On 03/23/2018 05:37 PM, Alberto Bursi wrote:
>
>> I wanted to say what I said. Dell, HP, Supermicro, Tyan, and whatever other
>> OEM makin
On 03/23/2018 05:37 PM, Alberto Bursi wrote:
> I wanted to say what I said. Dell, HP, Supermicro, Tyan, and whatever other
> OEM making commercial servers I know of is highly unlikely to accept a RMA or
> provide any support on their hardware if you install Coreboot.
> Therefore any seller of su
I wanted to say what I said.
Dell, HP, Supermicro, Tyan, and whatever other OEM making commercial
servers I know of
is highly unlikely to accept a RMA or provide any support on their
hardware if you install Coreboot.
Therefore any seller of such devices would have to provide such support
and war
Please also keep in mind that it is impossible to disable ME.
*I am not a lawyer*
In america the first sale law means you are allowed to do as you please
with a device you purchased as long as you are not violating any EULA
but if you somehow did the impossible and figured out how to execute
code
On 23.03.2018 20:28, Alberto Bursi wrote:
> Of course they will have to be able to provide any warranty and support
> over the devices they sell because Intel or whoever actually made the
> server/board will not really support nor accept RMAs of stuff with
> Coreboot on it.
That's some unfortunate
Same "I am not a lawyer" disclaimer for what I'm going to say here.
I don't think the seller can be held liable for anything, as long as
they clearly stated what they did to the hardware they are selling.
Of course they will have to be able to provide any warranty and support
over the devices
I am not a lawyer, but have some understanding of the relevant liability
law. This is not legal advice.
If damage is cause to the hardware that the ME would have prevented, very
likely. Same goes for any security holes opened by removing the ME. This
is not a supported option by Intel, so (prac
Hi all,
Searching legal implications of reselling deblobbed hardware, and can't
fight straight answers.
If the bios is replaced, and ME is disabled with its modules erased, could
the maker pursue the seller for having made those modifications?
Thanks,
Thierry
Le mar. 23 janv. 2018 13:56, Timoth
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4 cores, SMT4. There's an 8-core available for $190 more, and AFAIK
there are plans to start offering an 18-core server chip very shortly.
These are the OpenPOWER machines, so there is hardware virtualization
support (including I/O passthrough) that
how many cores is that? Does it come with LPAR?
On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:48 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> In case anyone wants to know the (non-coreboot) libre firmware TALOS 2
> single CPU/board combo is now only 2.5K.
>
> I still can't figure out how they managed to make it so affordable, this
In case anyone wants to know the (non-coreboot) libre firmware TALOS 2
single CPU/board combo is now only 2.5K.
I still can't figure out how they managed to make it so affordable, this
is seriously great.
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On Thu, January 18, 2018 6:37 pm, Nico Huber wrote:
> Generally, you can expect microservers with coreboot nowadays (anything
> supported by Intel's IoT group).
If you're talking IoT range, AMD APU Coreboot can be seen at
http://www.pcengines.ch/apu2.htm for example.
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Hi Carl-Daniel,
On 16.01.2018 19:29, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
> At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping
> servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately
> neither remember the server model nor who told me about this. If said
> person could remin
Hello Felix, and all,
> Le 18 janv. 2018 à 04:17, Felix Held a écrit :
>
> Hi Carl-Daniel!
>
>> At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping
>> servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately
>> neither remember the server model nor who told me about th
Hi Carl-Daniel!
At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping
servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately
neither remember the server model nor who told me about this.
This might be related:
https://www.fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/hwenablement_ope
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At the end of the day, though, this is rather like a rooted iPhone, or
running custom software on a TiVo via a hack. It's far from a full open
stack and while it may have some utility / advantages for server
operators, for the average person I don't k
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 07:29:18PM +0100, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
> [...]
> At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping
> servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately
> neither remember the server model nor who told me about this.
Hi, Carl-Daniel
bre BMC with OpenBMC port for it.
If you just want a libre motherboard, Talos is the best you can get.
On 18-01-17 12:00:01, coreboot-requ...@coreboot.org wrote:
Message: 2
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:29:18 +0100
From: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
To: Coreboot
Subject: [coreboot] Server systems shipped w
Hi friend ! I just googled "coreboot servers" and found this:
https://store.vikings.net/the-server-1u , and
https://www.siliconmechanics.com/i7045/opteron-server.php
(Installation of coreboot is available with certain configurations;
contact Sales for details.)
And, of course, Talos II POWER9 ser
Hi,
does anyone have a list of server systems which are shipped with
coreboot? I'm interested in coreboot+UEFI systems, coreboot+Linux
systems, coreboot+SeaBIOS systems, pure coreboot systems.
At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping
servers with coreboot without announ
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