[SUGGESTION] nohup_${PID}.out

2018-02-18 Thread Boruch Baum
ref: nohup (GNU coreutils) 8.23 1] Wouldn't it be useful for nohup to indicate the PID of the process it spawns? 1.1] What comes to mind would be to have nohup send the PID to either STDOUT or STDERR, and also to send it as a first line to its output file. 1.1.1] It would also be helpful for

Re: [SUGGESTION] nohup_${PID}.out

2018-02-18 Thread Bernhard Voelker
On 02/18/2018 12:26 PM, Boruch Baum wrote: 1] Wouldn't it be useful for nohup to indicate the PID of the process it spawns? nohup(1) does *not* create a new process. Instead, it invokes execve to replace its own image with that of the new one (in the same process), i.e., there is no new PID.

Re: [SUGGESTION] nohup_${PID}.out

2018-02-18 Thread Boruch Baum
On 2018-02-19 00:14, Bernhard Voelker wrote: > Have a nice day, > Berny Thank you for the kind wishes. I hope the list will continue to consider the entirety of the suggestions in my post. -- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0

Re: [SUGGESTION] nohup_${PID}.out

2018-02-19 Thread Bernhard Voelker
On 02/19/2018 12:30 AM, Boruch Baum wrote: I hope the list will continue to consider the entirety of the suggestions in my post. What exactly do you refer to? I think the other suggestions seem to be based on knowing the PID, so given that this doesn't change due to execve(), a workaround seem

Re: [SUGGESTION] nohup_${PID}.out

2018-02-19 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Monday, February 19, 2018 12:30:33 AM CET Boruch Baum wrote: > On 2018-02-19 00:14, Bernhard Voelker wrote: > > Have a nice day, > > Berny > > Thank you for the kind wishes. I hope the list will continue to consider > the entirety of the suggestions in my post. As far as I can tell, all your s

Re: [SUGGESTION] nohup_${PID}.out

2018-02-20 Thread Boruch Baum
On 2018-02-19 09:17, Kamil Dudka wrote: > As far as I can tell, all your suggestions can be implemented as a shell > script that uses the current implementation of nohup. Have you tried it? Yes. I didn't post the suggestion in order to have the coreutils team solve a personal problem of mine. The

Re: [SUGGESTION] nohup_${PID}.out

2018-02-20 Thread Mike Hodson
Dear Boruch, Let me start out by saying that your request of doing something new in a compiled tool, which can be done with scripting in the shell as it works now, albeit with a slight bit more typing, goes directly against the UNIX mentality of "do one thing, and do it well" modular design paradi