Re: man pages & info prefer HTML format

2023-09-24 Thread Dragan Simic
On 2023-09-25 01:25, Dennis German wrote: @arsen: thanks for the reference to https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/texinfo.git/tree/TODO.HTML @berny: ... man pages are available online in HTML format: https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/ These pages are only partially in HTML format , not

Re: man pages & info prefer HTML format

2023-09-24 Thread Dennis German
OK, ya learn something every day, at least I try to. The documentation at https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/index.html looks really good ! Examples and explanation. Some extra begin/end quote (noise) and somewhat extra spacey with option  (multiple double spaced) on a

bug#66176: 9.4 root test fails: tests/rm/ext3-perf tests/rm/ext3-perf.sh

2023-09-24 Thread Bernhard Voelker
On 9/23/23 18:35, Jeffrey Cliff wrote: Test suite told me to send this report in so here we are. environment : custom LFS (GNM) coreutils: 9.4 gcc: (GCC) 13.2.0 > FAIL: tests/rm/ext3-perf > > [...] > > ++ date +%s > + start=1698065263 > + mkdir d > + cd d > + xargs

Re: man pages & info prefer HTML format

2023-09-24 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Dragan Simic writes: > On 2023-09-24 15:47, Bernhard Voelker wrote: >> On 9/24/23 14:37, Dennis German wrote: >>> After the  years and fine tuning of basic HTML, why aren't the man pages >>> standardized to HTML format? >>> Perhaps some users don't frequently enough reference man pages as they

Re: man pages & info prefer HTML format

2023-09-24 Thread Dragan Simic
On 2023-09-24 15:47, Bernhard Voelker wrote: On 9/24/23 14:37, Dennis German wrote: After the  years and fine tuning of basic HTML, why aren't the man pages standardized to HTML format? Perhaps some users don't frequently enough reference man pages as they should and fewer use info , but

Re: coreutils/man/rm.x - fails to mention POSIX "Refuse to remove path/. and path/.., as well as `.' and `..'

2023-09-24 Thread William Bader
markdown might be a better target than html because it is human readable and many web sites can display it as html with wrapping text. pandoc https://pandoc.org/ can convert LaTex and roff man to other formats like markdown, RST, and html. texi2roff can convert texi to groff -me, -mm, or -ms. I

Re: man pages & info prefer HTML format

2023-09-24 Thread Bernhard Voelker
On 9/24/23 14:37, Dennis German wrote: After the  years and fine tuning of basic HTML, why aren't the man pages standardized to HTML format? Perhaps some users don't frequently enough reference man pages as they should and fewer use info , but (nearly) everyone uses a browser. Sorry, I don't

Re: man pages & info prefer HTML format

2023-09-24 Thread Dragan Simic
On 2023-09-24 14:47, Arsen Arsenović wrote: Dennis German writes: After the  years and fine tuning of basic HTML, why aren't the man pages standardized to HTML format? Perhaps some users don't frequently enough reference man pages as they should and fewer use info , but (nearly) everyone

Re: coreutils/man/rm.x - fails to mention POSIX "Refuse to remove path/. and path/.., as well as `.' and `..'

2023-09-24 Thread James Feeney via GNU coreutils General Discussion
On Sun, 2023-09-24 at 02:49 +0200, Arsen Arsenović wrote: > > Many standards come and go. > > Note that I agree that a better info viewer (and a better info on-disk > format) are necessary, but groff -Tutf8 -mtty-char | less -R is not > better. It lacks the ability to navigate or reflow (the

Re: coreutils/man/rm.x - fails to mention POSIX "Refuse to remove path/. and path/.., as well as `.' and `..'

2023-09-24 Thread James Feeney via GNU coreutils General Discussion
Sorry, that was probably a bit harsh.

Re: man pages & info prefer HTML format

2023-09-24 Thread Dragan Simic
On 2023-09-24 14:37, Dennis German wrote: After the  years and fine tuning of basic HTML, why aren't the man pages standardized to HTML format? Perhaps some users don't frequently enough reference man pages as they should and fewer use info , but (nearly) everyone uses a browser. Are you

Re: coreutils/man/rm.x - fails to mention POSIX "Refuse to remove path/. and path/.., as well as `.' and `..'

2023-09-24 Thread Arsen Arsenović
James Feeney writes: > On Sun, 2023-09-24 at 02:49 +0200, Arsen Arsenović wrote: >> >> Many standards come and go. >> >> Note that I agree that a better info viewer (and a better info on-disk >> format) are necessary, but groff -Tutf8 -mtty-char | less -R is not >> better. It lacks the

Re: man pages & info prefer HTML format

2023-09-24 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Dennis German writes: > After the  years and fine tuning of basic HTML, why aren't the man pages > standardized to HTML format? > > Perhaps some users don't frequently enough reference man pages as they should > and fewer use info , but (nearly) everyone uses a browser. > > And I don't mean

man pages & info prefer HTML format

2023-09-24 Thread Dennis German
After the  years and fine tuning of basic HTML, why aren't the man pages standardized to HTML format? Perhaps some users don't frequently enough reference man pages as they should and fewer use info , but (nearly) everyone uses a browser. And I don't mean programmatically simply wrapping the