On 08/22/2012 03:30 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
I don't know what other insights can be gained by reading the headers or
log entries. I consider this a closed case at this point and won't
bother this list with further analysis of it. On the off chance that
you or Gordon_do_ find something
On 08/25/2012 04:11 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 08/22/2012 03:30 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
I don't know what other insights can be gained by reading the headers or
log entries. I consider this a closed case at this point and won't
bother this list with further analysis of it. On the off
On Thu 23/Aug/2012 07:05:27 +0200 Lindsay Haisley wrote:
On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 20:08 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
So, with the sender doesn't really have a way of knowing what happened, the
sender will rightfully assume – and it would be the correct choice – that
it failed, and will try
Lindsay Haisley writes:
The headers you sent reflect this. It looks as if Mailman on your end
didn't cancel the held message, or it was moderated through as I was
canceling it.
You also cc-ed your reply to me, the copy that I got was the CC copy.
The situation with the post under
On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 06:57 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Lindsay Haisley writes:
The headers you sent reflect this. It looks as if Mailman on your end
didn't cancel the held message, or it was moderated through as I was
canceling it.
You also cc-ed your reply to me, the copy that I
Lindsay Haisley writes:
On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 06:57 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Lindsay Haisley writes:
The headers you sent reflect this. It looks as if Mailman on your end
didn't cancel the held message, or it was moderated through as I was
canceling it.
You also cc-ed your reply
On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 20:08 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
So, with the sender doesn't really have a way of knowing what happened, the
sender will rightfully assume – and it would be the correct choice – that
it failed, and will try again later.
If this is a one-off situation, then I
Sam, et al,
Here's a situation that happened recently. I posted to a popular
mailing list and courieresmtp logged the following.
Aug 19 20:12:06 shakti courieresmtp:
id=0027586D.50318EDD.6F31,from=fmouse-mail...@fmp.com,addr=mailman-us...@python.org:
450-4.3.2 Service
On 21.08.12 01:34, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
Here's a situation that happened recently. I posted to a popular
mailing list and courieresmtp logged the following.
[...]
The end result was that although I only posted once, two copies of my
post were delivered to the list, and to all list subscribers.
On 21/08/2012 2:34 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
Sam, et al,
Here's a situation that happened recently. I posted to a popular
mailing list and courieresmtp logged the following.
Aug 19 20:12:06 shakti courieresmtp:
Lindsay Haisley writes:
Sam, et al,
Here's a situation that happened recently. I posted to a popular
mailing list and courieresmtp logged the following.
Aug 19 20:12:06 shakti courieresmtp: id=0027586D.50318EDD.
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 06:57 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Lindsay Haisley writes:
Sam, et al,
Here's a situation that happened recently. I posted to a popular
mailing list and courieresmtp logged the following.
Aug 19 20:12:06 shakti courieresmtp:
Lindsay Haisley writes:
OK, a little work with tcpdump and swaks clarified how things actually
work. The designated SMTP server for the MUA engages in _two_ SMTP
dialogs, one with them MUA and one with the recipient mail server.
I'm quite skeptical that this is the case. There's no reason
On 08/20/2012 11:34 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
The end result was that although I only posted once, two copies of my
post were delivered to the list, and to all list subscribers.
Rather than speculate about what may or may not be happening with the
user agent and the MTA, please locate those
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 20:07 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
OK, a little work with tcpdump and swaks clarified how things actually
work. The designated SMTP server for the MUA engages in _two_ SMTP
dialogs, one with them MUA and one with the recipient mail server.
I'm quite skeptical that
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 17:33 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
Rather than speculate about what may or may not be happening with the
user agent and the MTA, please locate those two messages and send a copy
of *all* of the Received: headers from each. Send them to the list,
unmodified. They
[192.168.1.21] ([:::10.8.0.4]) by shakti.fmp.com with esmtp;
Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:20:28 -0500 id 002756F5.503433DC.
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Message-ID: 1345598428.2722.5.ca...@pudina.fmp.com
Subject: Re: [courier-users] Courieresmtp and 450 errors
From: Lindsay Haisley fmouse-cour
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 22:26 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Two messages, with the Date: header about three minutes apart. Different
Message-ID: headers.
If you didn't accidentally, manually, sent two copies, looks like your MUA
is doing that behind your back, occasionally.
This is
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