RE: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-22 Thread Julian Mehnle
Alessandro Vesely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Julian Mehnle wrote: > > [...] > > Now someone at pobox.com (which is SPF protected) sends me a message > > to my cpan.org address. The cpan.org MTA forwards the message to the > > mehnle.net MTA, which sees the "pobox.com" envelope sender being used >

Re: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-20 Thread courier-list
--On 20. November 2004 12:21 +0100 Alessandro Vesely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Julian Mehnle wrote: [...] To solve the problem, cpan.org would have to rewrite the envelope sender to something at cpan.org before forwarding the message. That not only requires cpan.org to implement SPF, but also SRS.

Re: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-20 Thread Alessandro Vesely
Julian Mehnle wrote: > [...] > Now someone at pobox.com (which is SPF protected) sends me a message to my > cpan.org address. The cpan.org MTA forwards the message to the mehnle.net > MTA, which sees the "pobox.com" envelope sender being used on a message > coming from a cpan.org MTA. But the pobo

Re: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-19 Thread Bill Taroli
Sam Varshavchik wrote: Julian Mehnle writes: Alessandro Vesely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is still not clear why one would rewrite senders. SPF should work if everybody takes the burden of declaring what are the mail servers they use. Suppose I have an account with the CPAN project and thus have

Re: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-19 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Julian Mehnle writes: Alessandro Vesely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is still not clear why one would rewrite senders. SPF should work if everybody takes the burden of declaring what are the mail servers they use. Suppose I have an account with the CPAN project and thus have the e-mail address <[EMA

RE: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-19 Thread Julian Mehnle
Alessandro Vesely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It is still not clear why one would rewrite senders. SPF should work > if everybody takes the burden of declaring what are the mail servers > they use. Suppose I have an account with the CPAN project and thus have the e-mail address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

Re: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-19 Thread Alessandro Vesely
Julian Mehnle wrote: > > In the "old times" of the Internet where a.com (everybody) could send a > message and claim it to come from x.com, forwarders would have to take no > responsibility for what domains are used as the sender addresses of the > mail they forward. As a result, everybody could

Re: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-18 Thread Pierre Ossman
Sam Varshavchik wrote: There have been multiple versions of the same basic concept -- when forwarding, replace the original return address with something that goes back to the forwarder; when the forwarder receives a bounce, it figures out, somehow, where the original message came from, and for

Re: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Pierre Ossman writes: Sam Varshavchik wrote: Julian Mehnle writes: Huh? Do I understand you right that you think adding SRS support to Courier would unconditionally turn it into an open relay? Pretty much. This has been discussed before. Do you have a link to this discussion? I wasn't able to fi

RE: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-18 Thread Julian Mehnle
Pierre Ossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The current solution would be to turn of SPF checks for the mail servers > where you can receive relayed mail from. But this is not something > people are comfortable with if it is a public relaying service. It is your _only_ choice if no sender rewriting i

RE: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-18 Thread Julian Mehnle
Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Julian Mehnle writes: > > Huh? Do I understand you right that you think adding SRS support to > > Courier would unconditionally turn it into an open relay? > > Pretty much. This has been discussed before. Well, SRS is considered to be safe by the SPF pr

Re: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-18 Thread Pierre Ossman
Sam Varshavchik wrote: Julian Mehnle writes: Huh? Do I understand you right that you think adding SRS support to Courier would unconditionally turn it into an open relay? Pretty much. This has been discussed before. Do you have a link to this discussion? I wasn't able to find it in the archives

Re: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Julian Mehnle writes: Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre Ossman writes: > I just wanted to know what the plans are for adding SRS support to > courier. > > Since courier recently got SPF support I've been starting to add it to > the sites I administer. Unfortunatly I use forwarding in

Re: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-18 Thread courier-list
--On 17. November 2004 19:11 +0100 Pierre Ossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just wanted to know what the plans are for adding SRS support to courier. There is no need to hardcode this functionality into courier, and could cause problems because of the secrets which prevent relaying. Is this som

RE: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-17 Thread Julian Mehnle
Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Pierre Ossman writes: > > I just wanted to know what the plans are for adding SRS support to > > courier. > > [...] > > Is this something that is going to be added in the near future? Or are > > No. Because adding it will turn the mail server into an open

RE: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-17 Thread Julian Mehnle
Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Pierre Ossman writes: > > I just wanted to know what the plans are for adding SRS support to > > courier. > > > > Since courier recently got SPF support I've been starting to add it to > > the sites I administer. Unfortunatly I use forwarding in a number o

Re: [courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Pierre Ossman writes: I just wanted to know what the plans are for adding SRS support to courier. Since courier recently got SPF support I've been starting to add it to the sites I administer. Unfortunatly I use forwarding in a number of places so SRS support (or something equivalent) is needed b

[courier-users] Status of SRS (SPF forwarding "fix")

2004-11-17 Thread Pierre Ossman
I just wanted to know what the plans are for adding SRS support to courier. Since courier recently got SPF support I've been starting to add it to the sites I administer. Unfortunatly I use forwarding in a number of places so SRS support (or something equivalent) is needed before I can fully ena