[Coworking] Re: Two Inspiring Founders of Coworking/Collaborative Workspaces profiled in mystartstory.com

2012-04-04 Thread Beth Buczynski
I'm confused...Benjamin goes to such great lengths to say that Grind isn't a coworking space because it's not "an incubator or an accelerator" and that the "chairs, the tables, the real-estate, renting a seat or a desk are secondary to constructing a strong community." That sounds EXACTLY like true

Re: [Coworking] Re: Two Inspiring Founders of Coworking/Collaborative Workspaces profiled in mystartstory.com

2012-04-04 Thread Derek Neighbors
Beth, As someone who also has distanced themselves from "coworking" I can sympathize. Coworking as a fad has become largely about space owners trying to make money running their "coworking business" and/or propagating corporations are evil and freelancer nation will rule the world. All of these

Re: [Coworking] Re: Two Inspiring Founders of Coworking/Collaborative Workspaces profiled in mystartstory.com

2012-04-04 Thread Jerome Chang
Is making a profit for a business necessarily bad for the coworking community? Coworking has brought about great ways to collaborate, and to create community. Those kinds of intangible ideals will obviously manifest in many different ways. I don't think there is one "true" coworking, nor two or

Re: [Coworking] Re: Two Inspiring Founders of Coworking/Collaborative Workspaces profiled in mystartstory.com

2012-04-04 Thread Derek Neighbors
Making profit is not bad. However, when it is the primary motivator for a space owner it certainly increases the friction in building community. I would say that its a directly proportional connection. The more important profit is to the space owner the more difficult it is for them to build rea

Re: [Coworking] Re: Two Inspiring Founders of Coworking/Collaborative Workspaces profiled in mystartstory.com

2012-04-04 Thread Tony Bacigalupo
> > *So while many spaces sound like "true" coworking, they are still the > minority. What can we do to fix this?* We fix this by not thinking of coworking as a static thing that needs defending but by focusing on the deeper, more meaningful concept that is driving coworking. If you think of co

Re: [Coworking] Re: Two Inspiring Founders of Coworking/Collaborative Workspaces profiled in mystartstory.com

2012-04-04 Thread Jerome Chang
FaceBook has profit as a primary motivator and they have plenty of community. I think profit and community can go hand-in-hand. Building a good community requires resources - there is no free lunch. Believing that profit prevents authenticity would similarly accuse "wealthy" people of lacking a

Re: [Coworking] Re: Two Inspiring Founders of Coworking/Collaborative Workspaces profiled in mystartstory.com

2012-04-04 Thread Susan Evans
Thank you thank you thank you, Tony. So well said, and rings true for me in many ways. This connects quite well to the fact that I always try to steer people away from describing coworking as a "service" to be provided to folks. A service implies simplicity, a start and a finish, and the relations

Re: [Coworking] Re: Two Inspiring Founders of Coworking/Collaborative Workspaces profiled in mystartstory.com

2012-04-04 Thread Susan Evans
To add: I don't think that what coworking is has much to do with the profitability or lack thereof of a space. Making a living is important, and creating a business that can survive and thrive is important, but there are so many ways to skin that cat that I don't think it's worth bickering about wh

Re: [Coworking] Re: Two Inspiring Founders of Coworking/Collaborative Workspaces profiled in mystartstory.com

2012-04-04 Thread Jacob Sayles
Wow Derek, way to get right to the heart of the matter! I think the "profit" conversation that comes up quite a bit is a little too simplistic. As someone who's part of a strong, profitable coworking community I often find the "corporate vs hippy" debate confusing. Derek's point about priorities

Re: [Coworking] Re: Two Inspiring Founders of Coworking/Collaborative Workspaces profiled in mystartstory.com

2012-04-04 Thread Adrienne Normand
Hey Jacob, Your comment on "corporate vs hippy" brings me to a conversation I had earlier today at jelly. A guy I met said that coworking spaces designed in a more corporate style were not in line with what true coworking is all about. Coming from the architectural and design world, we have be

Re: [Coworking] Re: Two Inspiring Founders of Coworking/Collaborative Workspaces profiled in mystartstory.com

2012-04-04 Thread Adrienne Normand
orking@googlegroups.com [mailto:coworking@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Jacob Sayles > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 5:19 PM > To: coworking@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [Coworking] Re: Two Inspiring Founders of > Coworking/Collaborative Workspaces profiled in mystartstor