Alright, thanks. I was finally shown the right settings to increase the timeout 
to 60 seconds, so this problem should hopefully disappear (or at least be quite 
reduced).

> On May 5, 2016, at 12:35 PM, Linda A. Walsh <l...@tlinx.org> wrote:
> 
> Douglas Bell wrote:
>> 
>> About when did this slowdown start? I'd like to know if it correlates to 
>> when we started enabling Fastly caching.
>>  
> ----
>   The first type of this error I saw in my browsing history was
> sometime on or after april 1st.
> 
>   I can't see exact D&T's in my history, but one entry that was
> just below one of the 503's was in the linux kernel bug report
> database where I'd just updated/commented on the issue was dated 3/31.
> 
>   Don't see anymore of the 503's below that update, and see at least
> 6 uniq, semi-persistent, occurrences below that.  When I say semi-persistent, 
> I mean if I try it with a different browser where I'm
> not logged-in, the page _may_ come up w/no error. 
> Just now, tried exit'ing w/tabs saved (2 of which pointed to cpantesters 
> pages, but only 1 of those pages had shown the 503).  When it reloaded the
> pages both got 503's.  I clicked on the reload page button on one of them
> and after about 15 seconds it came back with "proper" content.
> 
> Looks like the page-retrieval rate is about 15s (looking at a squid
> log) -- where the 503's show through as:
> 
>  +13.82 15029ms; ln=813  (59/54) MISS/503     <Athenae [GET 
> http://www.cpantesters.org/distro/X/Xporter.html - 23.235.47.204 text/html]
> 
> but a *successful* retrieval (~89 seconds later...), on a manual refresh
> just showed up as a 'MISS':
> 
>  +88.53 12515ms; ln=7254 (82/580) MISS/200     <Athenae [GET 
> http://www.cpantesters.org/distro/X/Xporter.html - 199.27.79.204 text/html]
> 
> 
> I notice if I don't get an error on the initial request, I rarely,
> if ever, seem to get an error in any of the subsequent fetches for that page. 
> Looking along in the log, that's likely because
> they are in squid'smemory cache.  Their look to be about
> 15-20 calls from the basepage that were served from squid's
> mem-cache (looking like:)...
> 
>  +0.16     0ms; ln=3062 (19K/-0) MEM_HIT/200  <Athenae [GET 
> http://www.cpantesters.org/css/layout2_setup.css - - text/css]
> 
> 
> That points to a good reason not to shove everything in a encrypted
> https session -- which google is really pushing for -- then on busy server 
> everything has to come back fresh from the server...
> (which in my case is resulting in the '503' error some noticeable
> percentage of the time...
> 
> 
> 
>>  
>>>  Maybe we should've just gone with Memoize for back-end..
>> Using a locally-hosted cache would solve very little of the problem as it 
>> exists.
> 
> Sorry meant _that_ more in silliness/irony especially since it has no way
> (that I know of) of timing-out it's in-memory, cached data, thus it'd be
> a bit like memoizing the returned value for time-of-day -- and getting the
> same value back no matter how long you wait...(just as long as process stays 
> active, as you mention)....
> 
>> 
>>  

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