lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 12:32 AMSubject: Re: The Art of
Submarine Warfare> BUT - what are they randomly checking
for? The officer only asks for her> ID, to establish her identity,
that's a law enforcement function, he never> asks for her registra
At 05:29 PM 6/22/2001 -0700, Greg Broiles wrote:
>At 06:08 PM 6/22/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Also, what can take out a surveillance camera from a
>>distance? An Edmund Scientific laser? How about the
>>ones in a dark glass bowl?
>
>I have wondered about this but don't have answers. On
June 22, 2001 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: The Art of Submarine Warfare
>
>
> Anyway, I agree now it was a police recording.
>
> So, they can pull you over for no reason?
> She asked repeatedly if she'd done anything
> wrong, the Copper said it was a checkpoint
> thang.
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Eric Murray wrote:
> One drawback of the decentralized kludged-up CDR system
> is that it's difficult to trace problems.
? I'll have to disagree - it's simple and reliable. What makes this
incident stand out is how little mail gets lost. How few problems we
realy do hav
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 07:43:21PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> #Subject: Re: The Art of Submarine Warfare
> #Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:11:35 -0700
> #From: Eric Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> #To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> #
> #There's no cp
At 06:08 PM 6/22/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>So, they can pull you over for no reason?
>She asked repeatedly if she'd done anything
>wrong, the Copper said it was a checkpoint
>thang.
The US Supreme Court last addressed this in November 2000 - their
conclusion is that checkpoints may
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 06:08:49PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> #From: Greg Broiles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> #To: Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> #Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> #Date: Fri, 22 Jun 01 16:49PM EDT
> # Subject: Re: T
#From: Greg Broiles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#To: Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#Date: Fri, 22 Jun 01 16:49PM EDT
#Subject: Re: The Art of Submarine Warfare
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#At 01:22 PM 6/22/2001 -0500, Harmon
At 01:22 PM 6/22/2001 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote:
> Listen to it again -- doesn't she say "I'm recording this"??
Yes, she does - but the recorder would either have been on her person (in
which case it would have been taken from her before she was sitting in the
back of the police car), or
Broiles wrote:
> The video probably got to the website via the defendant, who received it
> through the pretrial discovery process.
*thunk* Pht. I'm trying to put together a list of independent media and
activist sites that are using DIY covert/overt surveillance video (and
audio). I'm writing a
Listen to it again -- doesn't she say "I'm recording this"??
Greg Broiles wrote:
> At 02:45 AM 6/22/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >Whoooey!
> >
> >Found in Usenet, watched all four video clips.
> >
> >Someone had their car wired for sound, someone else
> >hidden with a video cam
At 02:45 AM 6/22/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Whoooey!
>
>Found in Usenet, watched all four video clips.
>
>Someone had their car wired for sound, someone else
>hidden with a video camera, when the police decided
>to pull the car over for no reason other than a
>random check.
>
>The lady
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