Re: eBay: Burn DVD movies onto CD?

2001-06-22 Thread georgemw
On 22 Jun 2001, at 7:39, David Honig wrote: > At 06:15 PM 6/21/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > >On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, David Honig wrote: > > > >> My argument, to any judges reading, is that its *not* circumvention if > you've > >> bought the damn thing, no matter how you decode it. > >> > >> If you

Re: eBay: Burn DVD movies onto CD?

2001-06-22 Thread Lars Gaarden
David Honig wrote: > At 02:36 PM 6/21/01 +0200, Lars Gaarden wrote: > >> >>The DVDCCA license requires that DVD equipment never allow access to >>the raw digital data. >>http://www.dvdcca.org/data/css/css_proc_spec11.pdf > > If you buy the media (and more importantly, the license to play > the

Re: eBay: Burn DVD movies onto CD?

2001-06-21 Thread Riad S. Wahby
David Honig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My argument, to any judges reading, is that its *not* circumvention if you've > bought the damn thing, no matter how you decode it. > > If you paid for satellite TV but you build your own descrambler, its *not* > illegal circumvention, even though your gizm

Re: eBay: Burn DVD movies onto CD?

2001-06-21 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, David Honig wrote: > My argument, to any judges reading, is that its *not* circumvention if you've > bought the damn thing, no matter how you decode it. > > If you paid for satellite TV but you build your own descrambler, its *not* > illegal circumvention, even though your

Re: eBay: Burn DVD movies onto CD?

2001-06-21 Thread David Honig
At 07:30 PM 6/20/01 -0400, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > >> Not if you have lawfully paid for the content. > >Not really. Part of 2600's claim is that DeCSS and css-auth allow >people using operating systems without officially licensed DVD player >software (with development cost starting at $20k just fo

Re: eBay: Burn DVD movies onto CD?

2001-06-21 Thread David Honig
At 05:15 PM 6/20/01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On 20 Jun 2001, at 15:16, David Honig wrote: > >> >do a cryptographic authentication procedure with the drive. Code to >> >do this is covered under "circumvention device" in the DMCA according >> >to the 2600-MPAA case. >> >> Not if you have l

eBay: Burn DVD movies onto CD?

2001-06-16 Thread George
Can anyone figure this out? It's a link from the ebay splash page, so it's "high profile". Is it DeCSS? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1439250171 # #[ pictured are DVD movies ] # #All the software needed to burn your own DVD's is included with #this