Re: [CREATE] LGM2010 Proposals, links, flickr, videos and more: Please RESPOND with your links

2009-05-13 Thread Jon Phillips
Well if we latched on, stealing another conference's thunder would be better, but there is NO way like 90% of the people could attend our conference for 3-4 days and then another one for another 3-5 days! I think we just go it alone, brussels, hammer it, rock. FOSDEM or GUADEC are the main ones to

Re: [CREATE] LGM2010 Proposals, links, flickr, videos and more: Please RESPOND with your links

2009-05-13 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On 05/13/2009 02:57 PM, Craig Bradney wrote: > We all agreed last year for 2009, that hanging LGM off another event > dilutes the interest for LGM and takes away from it more than it gives. But in this economy[1] it make sense. Less travel means more potential attendance. Just make it after or b

Re: [CREATE] LGM2010 Proposals, links, flickr, videos and more: Please RESPOND with your links

2009-05-13 Thread Craig Bradney
Dave Neary wrote: > Hi all, > > > Louis Desjardins wrote: > >> Also, look forward very much to proposal(s) for the conference for >> next year. How about these get in by June 1st? >> >> >> I would strongly suggest that we make the decision of next year’s venue >> by May 31st. >> >

Re: [CREATE] LGM2010 Proposals

2009-05-13 Thread Jon Phillips
Hahahaha...you guys are great! All sounds good to me. Jon Phillips +1.415.830.3884 (global) +86.132.6817.8381 (beijing) j...@rejon.org On May 13, 2009 6:50 AM, "alessandro rimoldi" wrote: hello create list, [...] > much text with many good ideas [...] full ACK! i will have to leave soon, but

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On 05/13/2009 02:01 PM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > >> Reading archived file is not interchange. >> > > Nor is having the file format documentation a solution for long term > archiving. The problem is that as soon as you offer the possibil

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Hubert Figuiere wrote: >> >> Reading archived file is not interchange. > > Nor is having the file format documentation a solution for long term > archiving. Leonard, We are talking here about being comp

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Hubert Figuiere
[Putting back the list in CC as you mistakenly left it out. ] On 05/13/2009 01:56 PM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > That is correct. Just as we did with PDF, we are focused on documenting the > file format (aka SWF) and not the behavior of "conforming readers" (to use > the ISO PDF terminology). T

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Leonard Rosenthol
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > Reading archived file is not interchange. > Nor is having the file format documentation a solution for long term archiving. As Project Leader for ISO 19005 (PDF/A), I've spent a LOT of time with archivists, librarians and the like to un

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > GIMP developers (just like John) have also stated before that they do > not want PSD So much for freudian slips :) Of course I was meaning to say meant XCF. Sorry about that :) Alexandre __

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On 05/13/2009 12:41 PM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > If you, they, or anyone else have specific comments, questions, concerns > about our published specifications for SWF, PLEASE submit them through the > OpenScreen project! The current docs are our first attempt at trying to > document "all that i

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > The problem with PSD, at this time, is that it is distributed as part of the > Photoshop SDK.  The SDK includes OTHER material that requires NDA, so folks > who just want the PSD format docs end up in an unfortunate situation.  I > contin

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On 05/13/2009 12:39 PM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > The problem with PSD, at this time, is that it is distributed as part of the > Photoshop SDK. The SDK includes OTHER material that requires NDA, so folks > who just want the PSD format docs end up in an unfortunate situation. I > continue to work

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Leonard Rosenthol
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine < alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > > > others can read & write our formats. All of our major formats, and most > of > > our minor ones, are documented in this fashion - SWF,

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Leonard Rosenthol
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > On 05/13/2009 05:00 AM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > >> Our philosophy at Adobe, with respect to file formats and standardization, >> is that we will publish the details of file format specifications so that >> others can read& write our f

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On 05/13/2009 11:34 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > And while I'm at that, is it legal to use parts of DNG SDK in GPL/LGPL > software? Not according to the license. I think I have already requested that, but got no answer beside a "what for?" in the Adobe forums. The license used by the XMP_S

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > >> others can read & write our formats.  All of our major formats, and most of >> our minor ones, are documented in this fashion - SWF, IDML, Mars/PDFXML, >> XMP, PSD, etc. > >

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On 05/13/2009 05:00 AM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > Our philosophy at Adobe, with respect to file formats and standardization, > is that we will publish the details of file format specifications so that > others can read& write our formats. All of our major formats, and most of > our minor ones, a

Re: [CREATE] LGM2010 Proposals, links, flickr, videos and more: Please RESPOND with your links

2009-05-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Jon Phillips wrote: > Hi all, Alexandre and others who were posting videos and photos, can > you reply to this email with links to your opictures and accounts. As if http://www.flickr.com/groups/776...@n22/ wasn't the advertized public Flickr group :) Alexandre _

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > others can read & write our formats.  All of our major formats, and most of > our minor ones, are documented in this fashion - SWF, IDML, Mars/PDFXML, > XMP, PSD, etc. Excuse me, are you saying that specification for the current PSD vers

Re: [CREATE] LGM2010 Proposals, links, flickr, videos and more: Please RESPOND with your links

2009-05-13 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all, Louis Desjardins wrote: > Also, look forward very much to proposal(s) for the conference for > next year. How about these get in by June 1st? > > > I would strongly suggest that we make the decision of next year’s venue > by May 31st. ... > Sounds like Burssels is > th

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Andy Fitzsimon
wow, I'm never typing on my phone again. sorry about that. And thanks for the clarification Leonard. So, its a good guess that free software wont have influence in the making of this format (for the benefit of its own features) But the good news is its likely that if documented enough, we'll b

Re: [CREATE] LGM2010 Proposals

2009-05-13 Thread alessandro rimoldi
hello create list, [...] > much text with many good ideas [...] full ACK! i will have to leave soon, but i will try to summerize it in the create wiki ciao a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman

Re: [CREATE] LGM2010 Proposals

2009-05-13 Thread Louis Desjardins
alessandro rimoldi a écrit : > buondì louis e jon, Bonjour Ale et Jon! > >> I would strongly suggest that we make the decision of next year’s >> venue by May 31st. >> >> Following, a series of actions to be taken: >> >> 1) Issue a first press release on the city. A second one when the >> dates ar

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > Our philosophy at Adobe, with respect to file formats and standardization, > is that we will publish the details of file format specifications so that > others can read & write our formats. All of our major formats, and most of > our minor ones,

Re: [CREATE] OpenRaster vs. FXG? :)

2009-05-13 Thread Leonard Rosenthol
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Andy Fitzsimon wrote: > Reckon there's a frantion of a chance they make this an open > unrestricted standard? > At some point in the future, if the format has become important enough to the industry, most certainly. Our philosophy at Adobe, with respect to file

Re: [CREATE] LGM2010 Proposals

2009-05-13 Thread alessandro rimoldi
buondì louis e jon, > I would strongly suggest that we make the decision of next year’s > venue by May 31st. > > Following, a series of actions to be taken: > > 1) Issue a first press release on the city. A second one when the > dates are known and a third one when the venue (the uni) is known,