Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2010-06-02 Thread a.l.e
this mail has been in my send queue for 10 month and has been sent because i've pushed the wrong button... you can safely ignore it... i don't really recall what it was about and it doesn't relate the current discussion on libregraphics.org... ciao a.l.e On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 12:40:08 +0200 "a.l

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2010-06-02 Thread a.l.e
buondì, slowly, the discussion warms up! i've read with much interest the mails from yuval, jan and christoph and i want to focus on three main points: - free(dom) and graphic designers - LG* and free(dom) - LG* and creativity so, let's go! 1. free(dom) and graphic designers in the las

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-20 Thread ivan
Thanks for all the email. The discussion has been great. However, it feels like stalemate at the moment, unless i'm misreading. In an effort to filter out the practical aspect of website: It may be that I've not listened to all the bugreports as closely as I should have. Sorry about that! If the w

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-18 Thread newsletters
Le dim 18/10/09 17:59, "Liam R E Quin" l...@holoweb.net a écrit: > also need to set the text colour, > e.g. color: black; Hello, Thanks for the tip; I changed the body color to "navy". Best, Alexandre Leray ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.free

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-18 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 09:36 +0200, Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote: > Am 17.10.09, 16:40 +0200 schrieb newslett...@alexandreleray.com: > > Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote: > >> In FF3 its possible to define a own background colour. As the site design > >> explicitely states, which colours are used for text (mainly b

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-18 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 17.10.09, 16:40 +0200 schrieb newslett...@alexandreleray.com: > Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote: >> In FF3 its possible to define a own background colour. As the site design >> explicitely states, which colours are used for text (mainly blue and red, >> but as well black) it would be fine to define the b

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-17 Thread Jan Claeys
Op vrijdag 16-10-2009 om 18:14 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef i...@textzi.net: > If that works, then it could be a problem with the iframe. I think using an iframe is a very probable cause of the issues people see... FWIW: I tried the design yesterday in FF 3.5, Opera 10, and 3 different (Gtk-base

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-17 Thread Yuval Levy
Dear Stani, I agree with many of the points you raise. Stani wrote: > the discussion of the new website is mixing "How do you like this > website?" with "Should we profile ourself with a consistent style > (logo, website, color palette, ...) across the years?". there is indeed a mixup. and IMO a

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-17 Thread newsletters
Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote: > The background seems to change every time I reload. Its the same for FF2 > and two FF's3. My guess is now, this happens by intention. > Yes :-) > In FF3 its possible to define a own background colour. As the site design > explicitely states, which colours are used for t

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-17 Thread newsletters
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > http://img37.imagefra.me/img/img37/2/10/16/prokoudine/f_pegmqmrm_ef846c7.jpg > Having seen the background I don't really think this is what you > intended people to see. Hello Alexandre, thanks for your report! In your screenshot, it looks like the javascript zoomed

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-17 Thread Cyrille Berger
On Saturday 17 October 2009, Femke Snelting wrote: > Why not keep the good LGM tradition alive where user and developer > events mix (so to not split up into two tracks)? > Yes definitely. I was thinking single track, so no "competition" between user made presentation, and developer made presen

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-17 Thread Femke Snelting
Cyrille Berger wrote: > What about both ? We could have the "dev" day followed by the "user" day. I > think it's also important to have technical presentation to see the > possibility for applications, and indeed, user showing applications is kind > of > cool, I think my favorite presentation i

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-17 Thread Cyrille Berger
On Saturday 17 October 2009, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > On Friday 16 October 2009, Dave Neary wrote: > > One thing I think that the next LGM could do is to make it an artists > > convention, where the developers are invited - I'd love to see a > > presentation schedule with just artists showing off t

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-17 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Friday 16 October 2009, Dave Neary wrote: > One thing I think that the next LGM could do is to make it an artists > convention, where the developers are invited - I'd love to see a > presentation schedule with just artists showing off their tools, and > have as many people from DeviantArt as fr

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-16 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 16.10.09, 18:14 +0200 schrieb i...@textzi.net: >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: ... >> gives some kind of idea, but again, I don't see the whole thing and I >> wonder who else does. > > I wonder the same. Please report any problems :) > > Ivan The background see

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-16 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > One thing I think that the next LGM could do is to make it an artists > convention, where the developers are invited - I'd love to see a > presentation schedule with just artists showing off their tools, and > have as many people from DeviantArt

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-16 Thread Dave Neary
Stani wrote: > I am really happy with all the positive energy of the current LGM > participation. I remember to read all mails by Femke and co, and > thought "Wow, the next LGM will be great!" I am afraid however that > the discussion of the new website is mixing "How do you like this > website?"

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-16 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM,  Ivan wrote: > >>> JavaScript in question didn't actually work for me, and I'm using >>> Firefox 3.5, mind you :) So I can't really say anything about design, >>> because I simply don't see it. I do see

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-16 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Ivan wrote: >> JavaScript in question didn't actually work for me, and I'm using >> Firefox 3.5, mind you :) So I can't really say anything about design, >> because I simply don't see it. I do see >> http://lgm.alexandreleray.com/static/css/background-fixe.svg at

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-16 Thread ivan
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > >>> Euh... because these particular three squares make an M for Meeting and >>> also a flag :-) >> >> Is good you said that. I would never figure this out all by myself :) > > That was probably somewhat harsh from me. To make it clear

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-16 Thread Stani
I am really happy with all the positive energy of the current LGM participation. I remember to read all mails by Femke and co, and thought "Wow, the next LGM will be great!" I am afraid however that the discussion of the new website is mixing "How do you like this website?" with "Should we profile

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-16 Thread Femke Snelting
Yuval Levy wrote: > @Femke: sorry, I don't see the dependency. And I can't conenct with the > meaning that you are trying to give to the squares. If for you it is > mandatory, go ahead, have your event. You'll sure do better than what I > would do (cleartext: nothing). Nothing mandatory; just t

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-16 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >> Euh... because these particular three squares make an M for Meeting and >> also a flag :-) > > Is good you said that. I would never figure this out all by myself :) That was probably somewhat harsh from me. To make it clear: I care a

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-16 Thread Yuval Levy
my previous message had a too large attachment and did not come through. peter wrote: > My modest opinion is that the ink-splash does not represent creative > work in the digital age I've been asked for feedback about website and logo and have given it. I've also stated that I have no particula

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-16 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Femke Snelting wrote: >> Same.. 3 squares - why 3? why blue? why not 3 red circles? or 4? >> Abstract can be great, but this seems excessive. At least *something* >> relating to open source & graphics would be nice. > > Euh... because these particular three squares

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-15 Thread Femke Snelting
> Same.. 3 squares - why 3? why blue? why not 3 red circles? or 4? > Abstract can be great, but this seems excessive. At least *something* > relating to open source & graphics would be nice. Euh... because these particular three squares make an M for Meeting and also a flag :-) >>> it’s a packag

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-15 Thread peter
hi there, was planning to stay out of this thread, but hey; just a quick note to thank the graphic labourers who dedicated time, energy, professional skill to redress the LGM style,(better late then never!) and to express my appreciation for the great visuals, think it will make a super LGM 2010

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-15 Thread Craig
>> In this discussion, unless someone comes up with another project, it’s >> going to be difficult to discuss every detail and try to make everyone >> happy. > > While I generally agree that it is difficult to discuss every detail and > practically impossible to make everyone happy, I have diff

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-15 Thread Yuval Levy
Louis Desjardins wrote: > The logo you have developed is actually very strong and I don’t see the > point of going back to the splash now that we have this new logo. I have no particular attachment to any of the logos. I do have preferences, which I expressed in the round for *subjective* opinio

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-15 Thread Louis Desjardins
Alexandre Leray a écrit : > Thanks Louis! > > Sorry for being silent for a while: we do feel passionate about many of > the issues discussed here, which is why our design looks the way it > looks. Our first concern now is to get the LGM site launched sooner > rather than later, so here's an attemp

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-11 Thread Craig
Alexandre Leray wrote: > Thanks Louis! > > Sorry for being silent for a while: we do feel passionate about many of > the issues discussed here, which is why our design looks the way it > looks. Our first concern now is to get the LGM site launched sooner > rather than later, so here's an attempt t

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-10 Thread Alexandre Leray
Thanks Louis! Sorry for being silent for a while: we do feel passionate about many of the issues discussed here, which is why our design looks the way it looks. Our first concern now is to get the LGM site launched sooner rather than later, so here's an attempt to go back to the concrete issue of

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-08 Thread Jon A. Cruz
On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:17 AM, Christoph Schäfer wrote: > Since you are aware of of my (strictly personal) distaste for Gnome, > I won't > comment any further, except that we seemed to agree at some point > that the > Gnome/GTK+ file dialogs are a PITA ;P Just a minor data point. With Inkscape

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-07 Thread Louis Desjardins
Just as a friendly reminder to all participants to this delightful conversation, this thread is (was) about LGM 2010 Website. Can we either split the thread or get back to the original discussion or both ? I am trying to follow... :-) Louis 2009/10/7 Yuval Levy > Christoph Schäfer wrote: > > Am

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-07 Thread Yuval Levy
Christoph Schäfer wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 7. Oktober 2009 08:33:26 schrieb Alexandre Prokoudine: >> Does Scribus import SVG flawlessly? > > No, and you know why. I don't. would you care to enlighten me? As a simple user I find it bizarre that when specs are publicly available; and Free implement

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Christoph Schäfer wrote: >> Just how many more Ubuntu Studio, 64 Studio and AGNULAs do we *really* >> need? :) > > What we need is a distro created by people who know what they are doing, not > attempts by people who don't! 64 Studio, for instance, is created by p

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-07 Thread Christoph Schäfer
Am Mittwoch, 7. Oktober 2009 08:33:26 schrieb Alexandre Prokoudine: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Christoph Schäfer wrote: > > 100% agreed, although better integration between different applications > > is certainly not a bad idea. Hence the idea of a specialised and neatly > > integrated Linux

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-06 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Christoph Schäfer wrote: > 100% agreed, although better integration between different applications is > certainly not a bad idea. Hence the idea of a specialised and neatly > integrated Linux distro. Just how many more Ubuntu Studio, 64 Studio and AGNULAs do we *re

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-06 Thread Christoph Schäfer
Am Mittwoch, 7. Oktober 2009 04:43:11 schrieb Yuval Levy: > Christoph Schäfer wrote: > > at least in my opinion, is the attitude of some developers, which comes > > down to: "You don't like something or desperately need a feature? Well, > > here's the Free code, go and do it yourself." This is a sa

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-06 Thread Yuval Levy
Christoph Schäfer wrote: > at least in my opinion, is the attitude of some developers, which comes down > to: "You don't like something or desperately need a feature? Well, here's the > Free code, go and do it yourself." This is a safe way to turn users, > especially professionals, away from Fre

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-05 Thread a.l.e
hi yuv > I was really hoping to see more discourse, more opinions, more > energy... i wanted to post a well elaborated mail, but -- exactly! -- i missed some energy over the weekend. > >> "Creative Suite" refers to the most important feature of that > >> software: it is part of a suite and it i

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-05 Thread Yuval Levy
I was really hoping to see more discourse, more opinions, more energy... Dave Neary wrote: > Yuval Levy wrote: > >> "Creative Suite" refers to the most important feature of that software: >> it is part of a suite and it is for creative use. > > The most important feature of the software is sur

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-03 Thread Yuval Levy
Hallo, Christoph Schäfer wrote: > Wow, that's a lot of stuff deal with :) and that's the kind of feedback / discussion that I have expected would ensue. THANK YOU. Keep *your* thoughts and opinions coming, rolling and steaming. I'll withhold mine for a while ;-) The key to a successful brain

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-03 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Yuval Levy wrote: > What I find disturbing in the current cacophony is the term "Libre > Graphics". "Libre Graphics" is insider terminology. It rings a bell with > you, but the best association it gets from the general public is with a > Cuba Libre at the bar! Contrast the self-explaining "

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-03 Thread Tobias Jakobs
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 09:24, Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote: > A screenshot of the logo SVG with FF-v3.5.2 is attached. > You don't have the right font installed, have a look into the PDF file. Regards, Tobias ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.o

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-03 Thread Tobias Jakobs
Hello, On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 00:54, Alexandre Leray wrote: > The logo is here: http://ospublish.constantvzw.org/documents/LGM2010/logo/ > > The site is visible at this temporary address: > http://lgm.alexandreleray.com/ For me this new logo and the site has some problems: - No connection to the

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-02 Thread Christoph Schäfer
Hi, Wow, that's a lot of stuff deal with :) Am Samstag, 3. Oktober 2009 06:27:51 schrieb Yuval Levy: > Jan Claeys wrote: > > What about s/Libre/Liberation/ or s/Libre/Liberty/ ? > > honestly and directly: the concept of Freedom (and it does not matter > what synonyms are being used) is overloaded

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-02 Thread Yuval Levy
Jan Claeys wrote: > What about s/Libre/Liberation/ or s/Libre/Liberty/ ? honestly and directly: the concept of Freedom (and it does not matter what synonyms are being used) is overloaded, overburdened, and IMO far from central to what our tools are and do. I've experienced it once again when I

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-02 Thread Jan Claeys
Op donderdag 01-10-2009 om 13:45 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Yuval Levy: > What I find disturbing in the current cacophony is the term "Libre > Graphics". "Libre Graphics" is insider terminology. It rings a bell with > you, but the best association it gets from the general public is with a > C

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-01 Thread Yuval Levy
a.l.e wrote: > since the LGM has born (it's already 4 years old now!), several projects > have been started and i think we can say that we have something more > than just a bunch of programs: we have a whole environment for graphic > designers which is growing! growing is often associated with

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-10-01 Thread a.l.e
buondì, > I would change a few details though - the most important of which being > the logo. you want to show continuity from the previous years. Changing > the font / writing is OK IMO, but I would keep the same splash of ink > (in new color) as in the past years. > i'd like make a more gen

Re: [CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-09-30 Thread Yuval Levy
OK, I'll break the ice. *beautiful*. *stunning*. *creative*. *elegant*. *attractive*. *informative*. I would change a few details though - the most important of which being the logo. you want to show continuity from the previous years. Changing the font / writing is OK IMO, but I would keep the

[CREATE] LGM 2010 Website

2009-09-30 Thread Alexandre Leray
Dear Create members, OSP and myself are happy to finally present you our proposal for a logo and new website for LGM 2010. The logo is here: http://ospublish.constantvzw.org/documents/LGM2010/logo/ The site is visible at this temporary address: http://lgm.alexandreleray.com/ Our main design c