[Crm-sig] Check this

2021-11-30 Thread athinak--- via Crm-sig
Check this https://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-191-range-of-p31 (https://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-191-range-of-p31) I think it is an old issue related with the range best Athina ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/li

Re: [Crm-sig] Scope note/range clarification - E80, P112

2021-11-30 Thread Robert Sanderson via Crm-sig
Ahh, thank you, I understand now. Well, the scope notes of the various classes and properties should be improved to make that clear if it's the case. And then we would need to have the discussion about how to remove fragments from meteorites, so I hope that's _not_ the case :D R On Tue, Nov 30,

Re: [Crm-sig] Scope note/range clarification - E80, P112

2021-11-30 Thread Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig
I completely understand the reasoning and I agree that intuitively a tree with a broken branch is a diminished thing. It is just that the scope note and all of the examples in E80 Part Removal are for Human-Made things so I worry that the class has been designed for Human-Made things only, i.e.

Re: [Crm-sig] Scope note/range clarification - E80, P112

2021-11-30 Thread Robert Sanderson via Crm-sig
It makes sense for the twig from the branch, but not from the branch from the tree (or stalactite from the cave, fragment for study from a meteorite, etc etc). Removing the branch/fragment from the tree/meteorite results in a Human-Made Object (via the Part Removal / Production), but the tree/meter

Re: [Crm-sig] Scope note/range clarification - E80, P112

2021-11-30 Thread Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig
Hm, I do not consider it as a value statement, but as indication of the intension. Breaking a tree branch which is worth putting in your collection is a production of a Human-Made Object (as well as a Biological Object). So when you break the twig off the branch, you are removing a part from a