Re: [Crm-sig] Example for propositional objects

2024-01-12 Thread George Bruseker via Crm-sig
Other fun examples from philosophy could be the Dao De Jing for which there are radically different translations that assume different propositional content. Wittgenstein scholarship also has, I believe, extensive archival numbering system and a developed commentary practice around the number infor

Re: [Crm-sig] Example for propositional objects

2024-01-12 Thread George Bruseker via Crm-sig
Dear Martin et al., If what you mean by using the practice of referencing Bekker numbers as an example for propositional object is to create a complex example that spans multiple classes and properties and illustrates the interrelation between information object and propositional object and potent

Re: [Crm-sig] Example for propositional objects

2024-01-10 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear George, Yes, I am very much aware of what you are describing and completely agree. 🙂I am right now looking for the original text. The text itself in Bekker's edition constitutes a Symbolic Object with propositional meaning, an Expression in the sense of FRBR. The search for precision is

Re: [Crm-sig] Example for propositional objects

2024-01-10 Thread George Bruseker via Crm-sig
Dear Achille, Yeah, clearly the Bekker numbers themselves are not propositional objects but identifiers. But I don't think that they are identifiers for propositional objects. They are identifiers for chunks of text in an edition, an information object which has a series of symbols and may encode

Re: [Crm-sig] Example for propositional objects

2024-01-10 Thread Achille Felicetti via Crm-sig
Dear George, What I read in Martin's email is that Bekker numbers are examples of identifiers for propositional content, not propositional objects themselves. Which, it seems to me, is not so far from your thoughts :-) Ciao, A. > Il giorno 10 gen 2024, alle ore 07:30, George Bruseker via Crm-s

Re: [Crm-sig] Example for propositional objects

2024-01-09 Thread George Bruseker via Crm-sig
Dear Martin, As a scholar of ancient philosophy, I do love Bekker numbers, but I am curious why they would be an example of propositional object. They are a reference to a particular chunk of text in the original Greek as setup in the Bekker edition. As such, I think as a scholar using ancient tex

[Crm-sig] Example for propositional objects

2024-01-06 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, I suggest to create an example using Bekker numbers. They constitute excellent examples of identifiers for propositional content. See https://guides.library.duq.edu/c.php?g=1030408&p=7468217 -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of t