[cross-project-issues-dev] [Brainstorming] Why (not) a "Final Daze" in SimRel?

2017-06-27 Thread Mickael Istria
Hi all, You probably all noticed the "Final Daze" email recently. That has brought some questions and concerns for some newcomers. I'll go into details in a few lines, but first, I'd like to ask these generic questions: What is the value of the Final Daze? What's its cost? For the cost it's obvio

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [Brainstorming] Why (not) a "Final Daze" in SimRel?

2017-06-27 Thread Ed Merks
Mickael, Comments below. On 27.06.2017 13:32, Mickael Istria wrote: Hi all, You probably all noticed the "Final Daze" email recently. That has brought some questions and concerns for some newcomers. I'll go into details in a few lines, but first, I'd like to ask these generic questions: Wh

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [Brainstorming] Why (not) a "Final Daze" in SimRel?

2017-06-27 Thread Mickael Istria
Hi Ed, On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Ed Merks wrote: > > * releng effort for any participating projects (setting up p2.mirrorsUrl > for instance) > > That should generally be done for update sites with a significantly long > life cycle, i.e., not nightly builds but weekly builds. > So we agr

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [Brainstorming] Why (not) a "Final Daze" in SimRel?

2017-06-27 Thread Ed Merks
Mickael, Comments below. On 27.06.2017 14:30, Mickael Istria wrote: Hi Ed, On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Ed Merks > wrote: * releng effort for any participating projects (setting up p2.mirrorsUrl for instance) That should generally be done for up

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [Brainstorming] Why (not) a "Final Daze" in SimRel?

2017-06-27 Thread Denis Roy
I must echo something that Ed touched on: >> * Doesn't the Foundation plan to enable a transparent mirroring >> system very soon that would make all this p2.mirrorsUrl useless? > No!!! With mirror URLs, the mirrors are directly accessed with no > further access to download.eclipse.org. With tran

[cross-project-issues-dev] Transparent P2 mirrors (Was: Why (not) a "Final Daze" in SimRel?)

2017-06-27 Thread Carsten Reckord
> I must echo something that Ed touched on: > > >> * Doesn't the Foundation plan to enable a transparent mirroring > >> system very soon that would make all this p2.mirrorsUrl useless? > > No!!! With mirror URLs, the mirrors are directly accessed with no > > further access to download.eclipse.org

[cross-project-issues-dev] Disk usage report for HIPP/JIPPs

2017-06-27 Thread genie
Compiled 2017-06-27-13:30:01 Projects exceeding 80G of disk space on HIPP/JIPPs: === 391G /jobs/genie.packaging 210G /jobs/genie.platform 203G /jobs/genie.ice 195G /jobs/genie.papyrus 195G /jobs/genie.capella 146G /jobs/genie.tracecompass 131G /jobs/

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Transparent P2 mirrors (Was: Why (not) a "Final Daze" in SimRel?)

2017-06-27 Thread Martin Oberhuber
Hi all, I fully agree with what Carsten said, plus 2 more observations: 1. If "everybody should use p2.mirrorsUrl", does the CBI support adding this with Maven/Tycho? Are there any official docs how to persuade Tycho to add that slot? The only doc that I could find was a blog from Andreas at

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [Brainstorming] Why (not) a "Final Daze" in SimRel?

2017-06-27 Thread David Williams
On 06/27/2017 08:04 AM, Ed Merks wrote: The update sites are only hidden by virtue of not telling the user the location of the update site. Making it visible is mostly about publishing the location in documentation somewhere, or by updating a composite to point at it. Blocking release availabi

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [Brainstorming] Why (not) a "Final Daze" in SimRel?

2017-06-27 Thread Mickael Istria
Thanks for sharing this David, it's quite helpful! On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:11 PM, David Williams wrote: > In many cases, it will work fine if someone updates their composites > early, but not necessarily all cases. At least, historically, there have > been cases where a user will be told "upd