Re: bearer = anonymous = freedom to contract

1999-02-16 Thread Robert Hettinga
At 6:41 PM -0500 on 2/15/99, Wei Dai wrote: > Thanks, Adam, for this great explanation. It certainly cleared up my > confusion. Speak for yourself? :-). > I think it is slightly unfortunate Your use of the word "unfortunate" is unfortunate in and of itself. :-). > that RAH chose to identify

Re: bearer = anonymous = freedom to contract

1999-02-16 Thread Robert Hettinga
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Re: bearer = anonymous = freedom to contract

1999-02-16 Thread Adam Back
Wei Dai writes: > Suppose you have a payment system that works like this: > > [check settlment procedure] > > [...] > > But to move away from terminology for a moment, if people really want > instant settlement and don't care too much about privacy, is there any > reason to expect that somethi

Re: bearer = anonymous = freedom to contract

1999-02-16 Thread Kawika Daguio
Bob, I think we have been having this conversation over and over for at least three if not four years now...and neither of us has given up. I still claim that your insistance on offline clearing is a mistake that limits your options and the possibilities for ecommerce. I have looked at some o

Will Not Happen (was: bearer = anonymous = freedom to contract)

1999-02-16 Thread Harry S. Hawk
Unlurking... Even if the perfect technology existed, completely developed and legally deployable, it still will not happen. (As much as I wish it would.) The real and only issue, beyond any scientifically hard problems, is market demand. There is none. Furthermore, there is unlikely to be any ma

ADMIN: stopping the bearer/settlement thread

1999-02-16 Thread Perry E. Metzger
I'm calling a halt to forwarding more of the bearer certs/instant settlement/etc. thread for the moment -- I think the horse is dead. Perry

Canada's Intelligence view on encryption

1999-02-16 Thread M Taylor
The Report of the Special Senate Committee on Security and Intelligence ou en français was released in January 19