RE: Critics blast Windows 2000's quiet use of DES instead of 3DES

2000-05-19 Thread Rick Smith
At 02:25 PM 05/19/2000 -0400, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote: > . But a cooperative relationship between Microsoft and NSA >(or any vendor and their local signals security agency) can be more >subtle. What if Microsoft agreed not to fix that bug? What if >Microsoft gives NSA early access to sou

Re: Critics blast Windows 2000's quiet use of DES instead of3DES

2000-05-19 Thread Andrew Loewenstern
David Honig wrote: > The *only* reason for using DES (or 3DES) is legacy systems, ie, backwards > interop. IPSec stacks (like *all* crypto things) should come with, and > negotiate to use, better crypto when they can. Which should be most of the > time, given how new both sides of most links wil

Re: Critics blast Windows 2000's quiet use of DES instead of 3DES

2000-05-19 Thread William Allen Simpson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- "L. Sassaman" wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2000, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > > > Frankly, I can't understand why the IPsec protocol still allows DES. It > > > should require strong encryption. Having DES in a product these days > > > makes about as much sense as mand

RE: Critics blast Windows 2000's quiet use of DES instead of 3DES

2000-05-19 Thread Arnold G. Reinhold
Someone made the comment in this thread (I can't seem to find it again) that a bug in MS security that counts as a hole, not a backdoor. But a cooperative relationship between Microsoft and NSA (or any vendor and their local signals security agency) can be more subtle. What if Microsoft agreed

Re: Critics blast Windows 2000's quiet use of DES instead of 3DES

2000-05-19 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul C rowley writes: >I'm guessing that they have to have a MUST cipher, and they don't want >to change twice, so it makes sense to wait until September and then >make AES (or AES primary) the only MUST cipher. Correct. --Steve Bellovin

Re: GPS integrity

2000-05-19 Thread John Gilmore
> This makes it quite possible to detect this kind of simple > spoofing by using two or more GPS antennas located a known distance from > each other and checking to see that the positions computed from the > signal out of each one differ by the known distances. Sounds like some interested

Re: Critics blast Windows 2000's quiet use of DES instead of 3DES

2000-05-19 Thread David Honig
At 12:56 AM 5/19/00 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: >few thousand known plaintexts), that fact will be kept secret. Which >means that they will have to be *very* careful making any use of >information recovered from that break, to avoid leaking the fact that >they can break it. >- --John Kelsey, [EMAIL

Re: Critics blast Windows 2000's quiet use of DES instead of 3DES

2000-05-19 Thread Derek Atkins
Actually, the SAAG voted to drop DES from IPsec back in, oh, the Minneapolis IETF in March '99 (IIRC). I think the problem is that nobody has revved the IPsec docs. -derek Paul Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "L. Sassaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Frankly, I can't understand w

htaccess help

2000-05-19 Thread John Young
[This isn't cryptography related, but helping John keep his web site of useful crypto information working well helps the community, so I'm allowing it. If you aren't a web server type who knows how to help, you probably want to delete this now. --Perry] We need help on analyzing the adverse effec

Re: IP: FBI insists it can tap e-mail without a warrant

2000-05-19 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Perry E. Metzger" writes: >> >>As interpreted by the FCC, the act also would require telecommunications >>providers to turn over "packet-mode communications" - such as those that >>carry Internet traffic - without the warrant required for a phone wiretap. I thi

Re: Critics blast Windows 2000's quiet use of DES instead of 3DES

2000-05-19 Thread Sandy Harris
Paul Kierstead wrote: > > > Frankly, I can't understand why the IPsec protocol still > > allows DES. It > > should require strong encryption. Having DES in a product > > these days makes > > about as much sense as mandating the usage of ROT13. > > OK, so I want to prevent some regular, every-day

Re: Critics blast Windows 2000's quiet use of DES instead of 3DES

2000-05-19 Thread John Kelsey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 08:58 AM 5/18/00 -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: >L. Sassaman writes: > > PGP's source code has always been available for public review. > > This has not changed. There are no "back doors" for the NSA in > > PGP, > >Unless they are particularly subtle ones, bas

Re: Critics blast Windows 2000's quiet use of DES instead of 3DES

2000-05-19 Thread Paul Crowley
"L. Sassaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Frankly, I can't understand why the IPsec protocol still allows DES. > > > > We are waiting for AES. > > So am I correct in assuming you are saying that DES will be disallowed as > part of the IPsec protocol when AES is finalized? > > This would b

RE: Critics blast Windows 2000's quiet use of DES instead of 3DES

2000-05-19 Thread David Honig
At 10:03 AM 5/18/00 -0400, Paul Kierstead wrote: >OK, so I want to prevent some regular, every-day hackers from picking up my >traffic. Or I just want reasonable protection for my passwords in Telnet or >FTP. You are saying that some guy in his basement can break DES? There's a lot of spare cycl