Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-12 Thread Eugene Leitl
David Honig writes: > For $500/monthly you too can have a box in various NAPs. You can > run your NIC in Bill Clinton mode, e.g., to measure certain > things about traffic. I know of a corporation doing this (they > are only interested in infrastructure traffic, not content). I know of a

Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-12 Thread David Honig
At 10:58 AM 7/12/00 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: >>There's been speculation about NSA black boxes in such facilities for >>years. The FBI, however, isn't quite as "above the law" as the NSA likes For $500/monthly you too can have a box in various NAPs. You can run your NIC in Bill Clinton mo

Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-12 Thread Jeffrey I. Schiller
I suspect that the reason they would want Carnivore as opposed to looking at spool files is that it is less invasive then looking at spool files, isn't dependent on the technology choices made by the ISP and finally its operation is beyond the ISP's examination. "Here just connect this to your ne

RE: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-12 Thread Rodger, William
Meyer wrote: > > I guess this explains the FBI's opposition to the Verio > merger. I wonder > if a colocation company or service provider could be forced > to disclose > its participation in the Carnivore project. Not unless compelled by the government. > There's been speculation about NSA

Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-12 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marc Horowitz writes: >"Steven M. Bellovin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> In this situation, everyone's email has to be scanned in order to >>> isolate the desired traffic. > >I've seen this claim before, and I don't think it's true. It's like >saying to wiret

Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-12 Thread Marc Horowitz
"Steven M. Bellovin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> In this situation, everyone's email has to be scanned in order to >> isolate the desired traffic. I've seen this claim before, and I don't think it's true. It's like saying to wiretap my phone calls, you need to tap an entire fiber, and do vo

Re: Fling: to be snake oil, or not to be snake oil?

2000-07-12 Thread Jeremey Barrett
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 09:52:09AM -0500, Ryan Tool wrote: > > Has anyone heard of the new internet protocol fling. This is what their > site says: > > Fling is a new suite of internet protocols that perform the function of DNS, > TCP, and UDP in a

Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-12 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Meyer Wolfs heim writes: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >I guess this explains the FBI's opposition to the Verio merger. I wonder >if a colocation company or service provider could be forced to disclose >its participation in the Carnivore project. Any AboveN

Re: New hash function definitions

2000-07-12 Thread Jaap-Henk Hoepman
It seems that if you are only concerned about the length extension property, you could make the last compression function in the chain different from all other compression functions. For example, if sha() is the compression function for SHA1 and md() is the compression function for RIPEMD --- bot

Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-12 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, P.J. Ponder wrote: > http://www.sjmercury.com/svtech/reports/gmsv/ > >From today's 'Good Morning Silicon Valley': > > FBI unearths sequel to Orwell's 1984: Privacy advocates are outraged over > the FBI's deployment of a high-speed e-mail s