Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-13 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 12 Jul 2000, Marc Horowitz wrote: > In the case of monitoring an individual's email, it would be > sufficient to monitor their spool file on whatever ISP mail server > stores their mail. The spool file only contains one person's email, > and only the ISP ne

Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-13 Thread Damien Miller
On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, David Honig wrote: > For $500/monthly you too can have a box in various NAPs. You can > run your NIC in Bill Clinton mode, e.g., to measure certain > things about traffic. I know of a corporation doing this (they > are only interested in infrastructure traffic, not content

Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-13 Thread Ben Laurie
David Honig wrote: > > At 10:58 AM 7/12/00 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > >>There's been speculation about NSA black boxes in such facilities for > >>years. The FBI, however, isn't quite as "above the law" as the NSA likes > > For $500/monthly you too can have a box in various NAPs. You can

Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-13 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Jeffrey I. Schiller wrote: > I suspect that the reason they would want Carnivore as opposed to > looking at spool files is that it is less invasive then looking at spool > files, isn't dependent on the technology choices made by the ISP and

RE: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-13 Thread Rodger, William
Jeffrey Schiller asked: > > I wonder how we find out more (FOIA), the descriptions I have heard so > far (its a sniffer) seems a bit onerous. Big Brother at his best! At least one group I know of has filed a FOIA for details. Perhaps we'll get information in a few weeks. Or maybe they will just

RE: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-13 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Rodger, William wrote: > Meyer wrote: > > > > I guess this explains the FBI's opposition to the Verio > > merger. I wonder > > if a colocation company or service provider could be forced > > to disclose > > its participation in the Carni

Re: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

2000-07-13 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
I had posted a note saying that pen register usage in New York was barred by the courts unless a wiretap warrant had been issued. I need to update that posting. First, that opinion was rendered in People vs. Bialostok, 80 NY2d 738, http://www.law.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/nyctap.cgi?80+738 But it

FYI: Intelectual property discussion on AES

2000-07-13 Thread Heyman, Michael
moochers !2713 NIST threatens antitrust against potential crypto patent moochers But first, I have decided to file an opposition to the trademark application for the phrase "patent busters". I just mailed off a request for an extension in time to file a formal opposition reques